CZ will codeshare VA to feed Australia service

[ben95]

I'd imagine for any Chinese carriers, who has stakes in the company has no real decision making power.

Iirc previously CZ and QF did have codeshare agreements. I wonder what has changed for CZ to make the switch

Perhaps not any real decision making power but seems enough to sway some partnership discussions.

AA pirchased 2.6% of of CZ back in the days (have since been diluted I think) and that was enough to fuel CZ to depart from SkyTeam after a decade of membership. Circumstances are not too different to this when DL/AF/KL preferred a more extensive partnership and shareholding with MU. In this case the CZ-DL partnership came years before the MU-DL partnership, just like CZ-QF and MU-QF.

Likewise CZ had codeshare agreements with EK, but have since switched to partner with QR after it acquired stakes in CZ.

 

[Haplo]

I have been on a few Chinese domestic flight, the service level of lounges and inflight meal is way better at both J and Y level, compare to Virgin. It wouldnt be long before customer starts to have negative feedback on the virgin flights.

For example, for a 90 minutes flight they give you a decent snack (rectangle boxes with 3 pieces of items) in Y and a 1-2-1 lie flat with full three course catering for some of the J flights.

 

[markis10]

I have been on a few Chinese domestic flight, the service level of lounges and inflight meal is way better at both J and Y level, compare to Virgin. It wouldnt be long before customer starts to have negative feedback on the virgin flights.

So have I and some of them have been like catching a bus, no food etc, not dissimilar to VA, eg Spring and Beijing Capital

 

[Haplo]

Spring and Beijing Capital is LCC whether as China Southern is full service.

 

[markis10]

Spring and Beijing Capital is LCC whether as China Southern is full service.

Yep, which is what CZ now have a codeshare with in VA, and let’s not forget their agreement with Indigo.

 

[jase05]

I have been on a few Chinese domestic flight, the service level of lounges and inflight meal is way better at both J and Y level, compare to Virgin. It wouldnt be long before customer starts to have negative feedback on the virgin flights.

For example, for a 90 minutes flight they give you a decent snack (rectangle boxes with 3 pieces of items) in Y and a 1-2-1 lie flat with full three course catering for some of the J flights.

Have been on plenty of domestic flights in China with recliner J seats and no meal service whatsoever and that is with full service airlines.

 

[Haplo]

I always find strange a full service airline would codeshare with a LCC

Have been on plenty of domestic flights in China with recliner J seats and no meal service whatsoever and that is with full service airlines.

Yes it depends on the destinations, I have mainly been on flights between capital cities which tend to have more elites (and thus expectation is higher).