Change to JAL Business Product SYD-TYO

[Travel Guru]

From Travel Today:

Japan Airlines plans to increasingly target high end travellers after last night
launching its new shell flat seat for the Sydney-Tokyo route.
Available from October 28, the shell flat configuration will see capacity in executive class boosted from 74 to 89 seats in the Boeing 747-400. The seat reclines to 170 degrees and is 190cm long, and also includes an in-built
massage function and power outlet for laptops.

TG

 

[Evan]

Good news
That is without actually trying the new J seats (only ever the older ones) so i assume they are good.

E

 

[Travel Guru]

I think it's great news, it was the only negative pt flying JAL J was their old seat, will be nice to get through to London or NY with the new seats all the way.

TG

 

[simongr]

This IS good news. I have been keen to fly JL to NRT as part of a DONE4 but am put off by the awful seating on JL.

 

[moa999]

Nothing on the JAL website.

Are they referrent to the JAL Shell Flat
or the
JAL Shell Flat Neo which is scheduled to go to JFK and SFO in Aug/ Sep 2008.
I suspect it may mean that the Shell Flat planes are getting rerouted to Sydney while US gets the really new planes

 

[Travel Guru]

I suspect you may be right, no mention of the Shell Neo product, I would think they're just rerouting planes.

That was only announced last night, and it was all they published so will wait and see what else comes out

TG

 

[adrian]

Have flown them a couple of times between BKK & NRT , and they are nice. Not that much different from Qantas seat, if memory serves correct. I certainly wouldn't avoid JL from SYD-NRT like I used to, because of the seat (although I will still try to avoid them as AA doesn't give the 100% bonus on JL, like it does on QF)

 

[maninblack]

Have flown them a couple of times between BKK & NRT , and they are nice. Not that much different from Qantas seat, if memory serves correct. I certainly wouldn't avoid JL from SYD-NRT like I used to, because of the seat (although I will still try to avoid them as AA doesn't give the 100% bonus on JL, like it does on QF)

Yeah, but it's all about the seat. Any other perks are of secondary importance.

 

[NM]

This IS good news. I have been keen to fly JL to NRT as part of a DONE4 but am put off by the awful seating on JL.

Remember there is no status bonus for AAdvantage earning for JL flights.

 

[adrian]

Yeah, but it's all about the seat. Any other perks are of secondary importance.

Sure, so if the seats are very similar, I'll go for QF as I get the bonus points.

In reality though, it usually comes down to availability, and JL usually has more D availability that QF.

 

[maninblack]

Sure, so if the seats are very similar, I'll go for QF as I get the bonus points.

In reality though, it usually comes down to availability, and JL usually has more D availability that QF.

Right...I should have added..."and price" :!:

 

[drron]

On a DONEx the price has been removed from the equation.
I guess here in BNE it will still be the regional product and no directs from QF.

 

[simongr]

Remember there is no status bonus for AAdvantage earning for JL flights.

Good point I dont have a DONE4 planned via NRT for a while so next time I do one - I will consider whether this might a flight credited to QF.

 

[vt]

capacity in executive class boosted from 74 to 89 seats in the Boeing 747-400. The seat reclines to 170 degrees and is 190cm long

Errr....would really like to see how they have done this. Would it mean a more cramped space or has cattle loss some room?

 

[Fifa]

Do JAL offer paid on-departure ugrades?

We are taking advantage of the JMB reduced points offer and flying SYD - NRT in Jan 2009 (returning end of Feb) and it would make a very enjoyable flight each way!

 

[Evan]

Do JAL offer paid on-departure ugrades?

We are taking advantage of the JMB reduced points offer and flying SYD - NRT in Jan 2009 (returning end of Feb) and it would make a very enjoyable flight each way!

I can't say for sure but i have never been offered one... although on paid Y tickets i have had good luck in Op-Ups to J.
E

 

[Travel Guru]

Do JAL offer paid on-departure ugrades?

We are taking advantage of the JMB reduced points offer and flying SYD - NRT in Jan 2009 (returning end of Feb) and it would make a very enjoyable flight each way!

Not something i've ever heard of happening in my time in the industry, so wouldn't count on it.

TG