Cash passports or alternative

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HardieBoys

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Hi there everyone,

I'm being lazy here. Travelling to Europe mid-year, and will be travelling to the US within the next 12 months. I want to take advantage of the high $AUD. Obviously I could just buy plain cash, but I always get a little nervous about having cash lying around the house. Travellers cheques seem so... retro. So I'm wondering about products like the Travelex Cash Passport, but want to know if there are any alternatives with better rates.

Any suggestions - including what not to go with - would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

HB
 
Take a little cash with you from travelx and put the rest on credit card.

Card is by far the safest and most secure way to pay anywhere around the world and you get points too ;)

If you run out of cash, just withdrawal from your normal bank card with a maestro or visa logo

Cash cards are a total ripoff and travelers cheques died off about 20 years ago :)
 
I've got the CBA travel money cards and they seem alright. If you're looking to lock in a good exchange rate then they're really a good way to go I guess.
 
If you are looking to lock in a good current exchange rate the options are either cash or open a foreign currency account with one of the banks, someone has mentioned HSBC. All of the currency cards are poor value due to fees, poor exchange rates or a combination of these.

In terms of cash exchange look beyond Travelex as they mostly have very poor exchange rates in Australia. I've use UAexchange and others here recommend KVB Kunlun.

For cards while overseas to get the best exchange rate there is the 28 Degrees card (from Wizard i think) or a NAB gold banking account. Both of these offer fee free use of ATMs overseas and exchange at very close to the headline exchange rate.
 
I posted a similar question about a month ago on buying euros.

There was some very informative responses, so if you click on my name you should see the thread. Depending on your location your options change. I have been watching the Euro and am thinking of purchasing some cash. I quite like the Aust Post option as they do not charge a fee (probably built in) but still give the most cash in hand for me unless I wanted to travel to Sydney.

I have a voucher tor a fee free Commonwealth Bank cash passport for the initial load, however it will still cost you 2.20e to withdraw from an overseas ATM. My local Credit Union will charge $3.75 plus 2.5% com for an overseas ATM withdrawal.

I have been thinking about the Wizard card but don't know if I want another one on my credit rating.
 
From what I have read about the cash passports, it seems that the Amex one through Aust Post is a pretty good option
 
I posted a similar question about a month ago on buying euros.
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Ellen, thanks for pointing out your thread, it contained some really good information and analysis. I'd recommend that anybody with a similar question to this OP looks at that thread too.

I'm going AF to Paris (via Hong Kong on QF metal, AF ticket) in May, so one of your other threads was very interesting to me as well. I loathe AF due to them screwing me over a few years ago, but following your thread I'm happy that I'm going business, which sounds fine, rather than economy. If anyone can answer the foie gras question - do they still serve it in J - I'd be most grateful.
 
From what I have read about the cash passports, it seems that the Amex one through Aust Post is a pretty good option

It sounds good, but how available are the ATMs that you can use it in?
 
Take a little cash with you from travelx and put the rest on credit card.

and travelers cheques died off about 20 years ago :)

Putting the rest on a credit card is fine (my ANZ Plat Visa has no ATM fees overseas), but if the Aussie Battler plummets as it is wont to from time to time, you can miss out bigtime.

Amex T/C's are fine, and are still a very useful tool. There are many ways of getting them fee free (cheaper than cash) and you can also cash them in fee free as long as you go to the nominated banks overseas.

I also have bank accounts overseas as I am a dual citizen, so that definitely helps.

As for Travelex, avoid them like the plague. What ripoff merchants!
 
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BadgerBoi.....yes the euro buying information supplied by posters on that thread was great.

Business on AF would be nice. As I am flying economy I have booked with Qantas.
 
I had a Wizard Clear Advantage Mastercard. You could load this up in the black with AUD and then withdraw cash in the local currency wherever you travelled in the world. There were NO charges or transaction fees, and the exchange rate is/was as good as you'd get.

Recently it's changed name and is now issued by GE rather than Wizard, but as far as I can tell it still operates the same.

Try logging on to 28degreescard.com.au and look at the "Features" tab.
 
I agree with the above post regarding the Wizard Travel Card. I used this in Indonesia 12 months ago, and my sister used it extensively throughout Europe.

When I used it it there were no fees and the exchange rate was exceptionally good. Not really sure how they make any money from it to be honest!;)

It has now changed to a GE 28 Degrees card, and have had a look at the terms of use for this and appears to be the same - am travelling to Indonesia in 4 weeks and intend to use it their before taking to the USA later in the year.
 
The same as any other CC. They expect you to go into the red, and then charge you 20% PA interest. It's very important to stay in the black. But that's not hard to do if you keep track of how much you put in and take out.

I'll be using it in Canada in a few months.
 
I recall a mate of mine using the 28 degrees card and he was most happy with it and the exhange rate.

NB I'm pretty sure you will get charged a fee for withdrawing cash from overseas ATM's...regardless if you are in the black or not.
 
I recall a mate of mine using the 28 degrees card and he was most happy with it and the exhange rate.

NB I'm pretty sure you will get charged a fee for withdrawing cash from overseas ATM's...regardless if you are in the black or not.

I just had a quick look at some old statements. In Europe 12 months ago I made withdrawals in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary and Czech republic. I wasn't ever charged a fee for any of those withdrawals. My wife used it for cash in Malaysia about six months ago, once again with no fee.

The only place we've ever been charged a fee is here in Oz, with a $2 ATM charge.
Actually, when I think about it, those Australian ATM fees are pretty much the ONLY expenses I've ever had associated with this card. If you use it for cash, keep it in the black, and if you purchase anything pay it off before the interest free days expire. Then it's just about the perfect travel card.
 
Re: Cash passports or alternative - Debit cards rule

In my view people who use credit cards overseas must be Platinum and not need to ask how much it costs! And no sane person would ever use those pirates Travelex for anything! You might have noticed that the banks have long been onto the lurk of charging you around 3.5% for any overseas transaction, whether on top of the converted charge in terms of credit card use, and straight out same % amount (not to mention "not our machine" $4 whatever charge) for a cash out from an ATM. Unlike people here who are paid to travel mostly it seems, I travel for pleasure and want to make the costs as minimal as possible. I heard about the Wizard whatever card later and am sure it is ok but I am totally sold on debit cards as the only way to go. Having been to Europe twice and USA twice in the last 18 months or so I have used ANZ Travel Cards, one in Euros one in USD (the CBA travel money card broadly works in same way, but up to 6 currencies on 1 card - ANZ has 6 separate cards, 1 for each major currency). The funds are locked in at the rate you buy them which creates some certainty (ANZ has sightly better rate on T-card, and better forex than CBA anyway). However when I bought Euros at .675 and by the time I came back the rate was .725 this can be a bit annoying - you can play a similar guessing game with the USD now - will it go on to 1.10 etc etc. Initial load on issue is free, so maximise that - later it is 1.1%, which is sightly higher than standard 1% for cash, and way better than 3.5% for credit cards.

For "credit" card transactions (in the US anything over about $5) simply use the card and no usage charge whatsoever (unlike 3.5% on "real" credit cards). Yes, there is a charge for use of ATMs to get out local cash (USD2.20, EUR2.10 etc), but you only do this max. couple of times as you need little cash if you manage it properly (in 7 wks in US recently only needed $400 cash). You get 2 cards at issue ($12 cost from ANZ) so one as backup or for travelling partner etc. You can check online the ongoing balance/transactions virtually immediately - and also cancel card online if lost etc (which happened to me in Estonia in 2009!). The cards last for about 2 years or so - my Euro one is about to be topped up for coming trip and it otherwise expires at end of July, the USD one goes until 2013.

Any outstanding balance can simply be spent out here, or in fact anywhere else in the world - it just converts via Euro/USD whatever to local currency. In my coming Euro trip I will largely be outside the Eurozone in Czech/Hungary etc so I will use it for ATM local cash and as a credit/debit card.

Someone mentioned points - well as I have an ANZ QFF Visa you can actually use that to load the card, and get points as well (I thought this would have been a breach of the using credit to buy credit thing but it seems no- however it seems you cannot use Amex for that, but Visa is oK).

otherwise for travel that I pay for - what's not to like! The idea of giving the banks more money is not one of my favourites. However if you are obsessed with getting points and using a credit card, be my guest - but those little percentages for "conversion fees" on every charge have long annoyed me. Yes I take CCs as backup if I run out/low but they barely get used.
 
Re: Cash passports or alternative - Debit cards rule

In my view people who use credit cards overseas must be Platinum and not need to ask how much it costs! ...

I think you miss the hidden cost with cash passports, the poor initial exchange rate. The banks sell at the same rate as for selling cash notes, this is about 4-6% below the mid rate, and they then hit you another 1% fee. You can see the big difference between the buy and sell rates.

So if a credit card or standard debit card get you for a 3% fee at least the mastercard exchange rate is close to the midrate.Of course you really should use a 28degrees card.
 
Re: Cash passports or alternative - Debit cards rule

What the...!?!?!

For a second there I thought I was posting stuff without realising. Welcome MrB. From Mr B.

As I've said before, I can't find anything bad about the 28 degree card, just so long as you keep it in the black.
 
mr mink I would suggest you've not read the fine print on the travel cards. With the fees for loading them up and etc. they are poor value.

As has been mentioned the is the 28 degrees card that allows ATM withdrawals fee free and then is the NAB gold banking/gold debit card as fee free when overseas.
 
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