BBQ at Changi......

[jb747]

SIA flight catches fire while making emergency landing in Singapore - Channel NewsAsia

 

[Boris spatsky]

I must have missed that. Impressive video footage.

 

[deejo77]

I am glad they all got out OK.......good pictures of the fire

 

[defurax]

I wouldn't have enjoyed being a window PAX by the wing after landing...
Is this the first such incident with a 777?
Edit: a Google Search tells me that engine fire also happened to a BA flight at LAS and a KE flight in Tokyo

 

[Comoman]

I'm quite surprised they didn't evacuate.....I'm sure the Captain had good reason not to.

 

[jb747]

This is the third with an on ground fire in recent memory. BA and KAL after aborted take offs, and now this.

 

[kelvedon]

I'm quite surprised they didn't evacuate.....I'm sure the Captain had good reason not to.

My thoughts too, with one wing on fire why didn't they use the emergency chutes ?

 

[Melburnian1]

I also find it surprising that the media reports all state that passengers alighted via stairs, rather than slides.

To our more technically minded AFF members, what is the risk of such a fire spreading relatively quickly to other areas of the aircraft, either exterior or interior?

After the number of incidents as referred to above, will international aviation safety regulators put out a specific instruction, or even demand that this model be rigorously checked by third parties?

 

[jb747]

I also find it surprising that the media reports all state that passengers alighted via stairs, rather than slides.

You're not the only one....

To our more technically minded AFF members, what is the risk of such a fire spreading relatively quickly to other areas of the aircraft, either exterior or interior?

Unknown. But, I'd always assume that you had only minutes.

After this number of incidents as referred to above, will international aviation safety regulators put out a specific instruction, or even demand that this model be rigorously checked by third parties?

I'll get out my crystal ball. There's probably no real link between these events, other than the aircraft type. They'll put out directives based on real issues, if they find one. Otherwise, sometimes stuff just happens.

 

[JessicaTam]

And to add to the questions - why did it catch fire only after it had landed?

 

[Melburnian1]

Here is another previous incident where allegedly the engine only caught fire on the ground, and the crew took ages to allow the passengers to alight:

Cebu Pacific plane overshoots Davao airport runway

Different aircraft type, though - merely included as one small example of how (to our esteemed contributor and others' surprise) passengers are not always evacuated quickly via the slides when logic tells us that it ought be the way to go, merely from commonsense.

 

[jb747]

And to add to the questions - why did it catch fire only after it had landed?

There's a few more questions to answer before you can really get to this one. What's actually burning? Fuel, oil, hydraulics? Or a combination? Was the engine shut down? And if so, what was the ignition source? What was the reported leak (I've read both oil and fuel)?

Presumably though, something flammable dripped onto something hot, and it lit. Said flammable might have been dispersed to the aft in flight. And perhaps the ignition source didn't exist then either.

Sadly neither FR24 nor Flightaware show the full track of the aircraft. The turn around is missing. But, from the fact that it's shown at FL170 for most of the return, you can reasonably assume that the engine has been shut down. As that U-turn took place over the Andaman Sea, the nearest good airport is Bangkok. I can understand not diverting to emergency airports, but flying past BKK is an interesting decision.

 

[JessicaTam]

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(to our esteemed contributor and others' surprise)

But surely we are all esteemed.

 

[dajop]

One question I have, what sort of things do you factor in when deciding whether to divert or return to home base? I noticed turn around point (at least according to flight aware) was 90 miles short of HKT, so HKT, PEN & KUL were I guess all potential diversion ports.

 

[Ansett]

Not so sure I would be feeling very calm when looking out the window with that amount of fire.

Personally I would have preferred to have vacated as soon as practical via the Emergency Exits rather than awaiting stairs, assuming that it would have been safe to have done so.

 

[Meggsy]

Whilst obviously the aircraft captain has the ultimate responsibility for making the call to stay or evacuate, he/she will hopefully use the information from the fire service to assist with this decision. The call made here proved to be the right one, to keep pax on board while firefighting operations were underway. Based on everything I have seen today (photos and videos of this incident) I would agree. It will be interesting to see the origin of the fire.
Question for jb747, do you know if these three 777 ground fire incidents have all had the same engine type/model installed ?

 

[jb747]

Whilst obviously the aircraft captain has the ultimate responsibility for making the call to stay or evacuate, he/she will hopefully use the information from the fire service to assist with this decision. The call made here proved to be the right one, to keep pax on board while firefighting operations were underway. Based on everything I have seen today (photos and videos of this incident) I would agree. It will be interesting to see the origin of the fire.

I think it might be closer to the truth to say that they were lucky enough to get away with it.

Question for jb747, do you know if these three 777 ground fire incidents have all had the same engine type/model installed ?

No idea of the engine model, but I doubt that these events are related at all. Quite different scenarios.

 

[QF1]

SQ flt to Milan catches fire after Emergency landing

Just saw this on BBC...

Singapore Airlines plane catches fire after emergency landing - BBC News

 

[AnnaB]

Re: SQ flt to Milan catches fire after Emergency landing

:shock:

Glad they landed safely and everyone on board were ok.

 

[AnnaB]

:shock: Glad they all got off the plane safely... question is how you get back into the air after experiencing something like that.