Article: Unusual Air New Zealand Award Availability

Hi, I am planning a trip from Sydney to Wellington in October and after all the negative press regarding Qantas, I'm interested in exploring other options. I would like to consider buying an economy Air NZ seat and then trying to get an upgrade using points. Can I apply for an upgrade using Sing Air points which would come from my Velocity stash? Looks like you need the points already in the Sing Air account before you can search for availability, is that right?
Thanks, Peter
 
I would like to consider buying an economy Air NZ seat and then trying to get an upgrade using points.
From Sydney to Wellington, Air New Zealand only use A320's which are fitted with all economy seats. There is a seperate product at the front of the aircraft (first 2-3 rows) called Works Deluxe but this is the same service as economy with just a spare seat between you plus priority check in, boarding, a bit more legroom and slightly better headphones for the IFE. A works deluxe upgrade can not be done with any points only cash and typically is only $130-200 depending on the route.

Can I apply for an upgrade using Sing Air points which would come from my Velocity stash?
So ignoring all the above it is possible to upgrade Star Alliance flight using points however it's basically impossible. Here are the steps:

1. You need to be on a flight that has a business class cabin, from Sydney this is Sydney to Auckland only (noting that only 787 and 777 flights are eligible). Typically only one flight per day is operated by an aircraft with a business class cabin.

2. You need to be booked in an eligible economy booking class this is U, E, O, Y, B (oddly some of those fare classes are Premium Economy but they're not eligible for upgrade). These booking classes are the most expensive flexible fares the cheapest oneway SYD to AKL flight in one of those economy fare types is $878.

3. There needs to be business class award space on the flight you are looking to upgrade. Air NZ award space in general is limited and in premium cabins basically non existent (except for a handful mentioned in this thread).

4. Once you have an eligible booking and there is award space you need to put in a request to Singapore airlines. The upgrade cost is 23,000 krisflyer miles which if you converted VA points would be 35,650 points for the upgrade. The requests are done via the phone which takes time.

In total you'd be spending at least $878 plus 23,000 krisflyer miles assuming there is even award space in the first place.

If there is award space you could book the business class award for 34,500 miles plus ~$120 taxes.

It's also worth noting that paying $878 for a fully flexible economy fare just to upgrade is terrible value when Sydney to Auckland is currently on sale in business class for ~$500 oneway.

Looks like you need the points already in the Sing Air account before you can search for availability, is that right?
You shouldn't need the points in your account to search. Also you can search Star Alliance award flights via the United website without logging in or via other websites eg : Star alliance award search - Travel hacks
 
From Sydney to Wellington, Air New Zealand only use A320's which are fitted with all economy seats. There is a seperate product at the front of the aircraft (first 2-3 rows) called Works Deluxe but this is the same service as economy with just a spare seat between you plus priority check in, boarding, a bit more legroom and slightly better headphones for the IFE. A works deluxe upgrade can not be done with any points only cash and typically is only $130-200 depending on the route.


So ignoring all the above it is possible to upgrade Star Alliance flight using points however it's basically impossible. Here are the steps:

1. You need to be on a flight that has a business class cabin, from Sydney this is Sydney to Auckland only (noting that only 787 and 777 flights are eligible). Typically only one flight per day is operated by an aircraft with a business class cabin.

2. You need to be booked in an eligible economy booking class this is U, E, O, Y, B (oddly some of those fare classes are Premium Economy but they're not eligible for upgrade). These booking classes are the most expensive flexible fares the cheapest oneway SYD to AKL flight in one of those economy fare types is $878.

3. There needs to be business class award space on the flight you are looking to upgrade. Air NZ award space in general is limited and in premium cabins basically non existent (except for a handful mentioned in this thread).

4. Once you have an eligible booking and there is award space you need to put in a request to Singapore airlines. The upgrade cost is 23,000 krisflyer miles which if you converted VA points would be 35,650 points for the upgrade. The requests are done via the phone which takes time.

In total you'd be spending at least $878 plus 23,000 krisflyer miles assuming there is even award space in the first place.

If there is award space you could book the business class award for 34,500 miles plus ~$120 taxes.

It's also worth noting that paying $878 for a fully flexible economy fare just to upgrade is terrible value when Sydney to Auckland is currently on sale in business class for ~$500 oneway.


You shouldn't need the points in your account to search. Also you can search Star Alliance award flights via the United website without logging in or via other websites eg : Star alliance award search - Travel hacks
Wow that is such a detailed response. And I wasnt aware of the Star alliance search tool. Thank you so much. It seems much better than the other tools for searching star awards.
 
Wow that is such a detailed response. And I wasnt aware of the Star alliance search tool.
It's worth noting that tool isn't anything official. It's been created by a 3rd party and searches using the SAS airline's API, what his means is that it reflects availability based on what SAS can see (and often SQ doesn't show up). SAS know about the tool (and actually encouraged it) so there is nothing illegal or weird going on.
 
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Was trying to book these on United as they seem to running some mileage sale.
Is the United website not working at the moment? I am able to find these on SQ and Lifemiles, but not on United.
Actually, i cant seem to search award flights on any route on United. I am logged in and have selected the miles search.

United:
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SQ:
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Lifemiles:
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Was trying to book these on United as they seem to running some mileage sale.
Is the United website not working at the moment? I am able to find these on SQ and Lifemiles, but not on United.
Actually, i cant seem to search award flights on any route on United. I am logged in and have selected the miles search.

United:
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It's not just you. I can't get these flights to appear on United's website, even when using the old version of the website (which is sometimes more reliable).
 

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