Jeju Air Flight 2216 Crashes in South Korea

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23 casualties which is amazing considering the footage, ARFF is nowhere to be see which is a little odd.
 
markis10 said:
23 casualties which is amazing considering the footage, ARFF is nowhere to be see which is a little odd.
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That fatality number is going to go up. This was the number confirmed at that point in time.
 
elanshin said:
That fatality number is going to go up. This was the number confirmed at that point in time.
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That’s sadly usually the case. The plane appears completely clean on approach, and no trace of any holding on Flightradar, which would account for the lack of ARFF on the scene, very weird. I will be surprised if sadly there are any survivors, that aircraft was going way too fast down a reasonably long runway.
 
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It's been a shocking week for aviation

Re casualties, the reports are that the aircraft is almost completely destroyed so I would brace for a much higher number barring some miracle
 
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some sort of engine issue posibly due to a bird strike
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Reports from AFP are stating the damage from the bird strike caused the landing gear to malfunction. If that were the case though, surely they'd go around and work on it in a hold rather than coming in for a fingers crossed landing? Unless they didn't know that the landing gear was malfunctioning, but the question would then be why it would be known during early reports.
 
A bird strike effecting deployment of landing gear?

I’ll leave it to the experts but can’t process the connection 🤷‍♂️
 
If the footage I saw of the bird strike is from this aircraft (struck number 2 engine) then I’m not sure how likely it would be to cause a malfunction of the landing gear. I hope it wasn’t because they were overloaded and didn’t lower it.
 
p--and--t said:
A bird strike effecting deployment of landing gear?

I’ll leave it to the experts but can’t process the connection 🤷‍♂️
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Unless they had severe engine failures (both) and had to land with no second chances.
 
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Reports from AFP are stating the damage from the bird strike caused the landing gear to malfunction.
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I find that very odd. Don’t they have gravity drops?

I would be curious to see if the gear was down in approach, and they have perhaps bungled the missed approach leading to the slide, ie called the missed approach, gear up, but whoopsy we have now hit the deck. It almost looks like during that slide that they are attempting to takeoff again? Look at the nose attitude.
 
Saab34 said:
I find that very odd. Don’t they have gravity drops?

I would be curious to see if the gear was down in approach, and they have perhaps bungled the missed approach leading to the slide. It almost looks like during that slide that they are attempting to takeoff again? Look at the nose attitude.
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I fear they may have made a pigs ear out of this.
 
One for the pilots. How effective is rudder for directional control on a landing like this? Just thinking with a wall approaching one would have full pedal on one side, not sure if that would do much though.
 
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Birds are taking a lot of heat this week. Looking at prune, and the people there are scratching their heads. A bird strike cannot directly cause a gear malfunction. From what people who know the airport are saying, the landing video does not tie up with the FR24 data, so there would appear to have been a go around, with the aircraft then positioned on to the reciprocal runway. This one seems quite weird.
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One for the pilots. How effective is rudder for directional control on a landing like this? Just thinking with a wall approaching one would have full pedal on one side, not sure if that would do much though.
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You could possibly get a bit of yaw, but I doubt that you'd be able to change the energy vector very much. It would keep going the way it was, but now a bit sideways.
 
Media reports are now suggesting that there are only 2 survivors, including one flight attendant.

The aircraft involved was operating a flight from Jeju to Beijing 2 days ago when it declared an emergency and diverted to Seoul. Reportedly the cause was hydraulic issues.
 
Will be interesting to see where those two survivors sat, I assume the rear. The tail area is somewhat still intact, the doors seems still closed however, is a hole underneath though.

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I only few Jeju Air 2 months ago, and would never have imagined that landing gear being stuck would happen to Jeju Air. Speaking of which, I haven't written up the review on Jeju Air yet ......
 
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Question I have is why was the ADS-B tracking lost during the approach? Earlier flights appear to have tracked okay.
 

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