DJ Premium Economy- Controversial

[crazydave98]

For business travel my employer provides economy transport with fully flexible fare conditions. For DJ that means Corporate Plus fares with its included bonus of lounge access. However, with QF I can use personal FF points to upgrade to J, which I do whenever possible - primarily for the room (both width and length). I'm not terribly fussed about meals on short-haul flights.

The ability to upgrade to PE using Velocity rewards points would clinch many of the flight decisions that currently go Qantas's way.

Richard.

Thanks Richard. I belive the ability to upgrade using Velocity points is being looked at. Dumb question but if your employer will spring for Corporate Plus what stops them going to PE? Do they regard it as a separate "class" above economy?

cheers

CrazyDave98

[docjames]

Do they regard it as a separate "class" above economy?

Doesnt Virgin?

[notzac]

Dumb question but if your employer will spring for Corporate Plus what stops them going to PE?

Our corporate travel policy stipulates Economy is the only permissible fare class for domestic travel.

[rwatts]

Thanks Richard. I belive the ability to upgrade using Velocity points is being looked at. Dumb question but if your employer will spring for Corporate Plus what stops them going to PE? Do they regard it as a separate "class" above economy?

cheers

CrazyDave98

Think large(st) government department. My collective agreement says

Class of air travel. Employees required to travel between localities in Australia travel Economy class.

Naturally higher level managers get to travel business class. I'm betting that there wouldnt be too many of them that consider PE to equate to business class for their entitlements but none the less they have obviously decided that PE is above the economy class entitlement for mere plebs.

DJ should feel free to convince them otherwise !

Richard.

[Platy]

A bit cheeky asking someone what they paid for their seat isn't it?

I wonder if your friend would do the same if they flew J in QF and thought someone may not "look" like they had paid business?

Nah, you don't need to ask the person next to you in QF domestic J, there's a better than 50-50 chance they are QF staff....

[comint]

A bit cheeky asking someone what they paid for their seat isn't it?

Much easier to just take a glance at their boarding pass, and read the fare code off it

[crazydave98]

Doesnt Virgin?

No, it is simply a bundling of other products. Otherwise we would have tried to pass it off as a cheap business class - as others have noted it's a better product than J class short haul on most European airlines.

[docjames]

No, it is simply a bundling of other products. Otherwise we would have tried to pass it off as a cheap business class - as others have noted it's a better product than J class short haul on most European airlines.

Not to upset, but postulating that perhaps that's part of the issue - not "special" enough for full fare QF travellers (who will frequently upgrade to J).

[pauly7]

Not to upset, but postulating that perhaps that's part of the issue - not "special" enough for full fare QF travellers (who will frequently upgrade to J).

And who can secure exit row seats / bulkheads easily and for free.

For me DJ PE = QF exit row

[Platy]

And who can secure exit row seats / bulkheads easily and for free.

For me DJ PE = QF exit row

A query (it' along time since I flew DJ) -are meals cooked in aircraft ovens or microwaves?

IMHO the Blue Zone makes a mockery of DJ PE. Simply pay the $25-$25 extra and the for your meals/drinks and you basically have bundled a D-I-Y PE experience.

PE is WAY over-priced to be taken seriously as an economy product and offers way too little to be taken seriously as a business class product.

The classic DJ problem - caught between two stools - neither a LCC nor a full servcie airline and often more expensive in economy than QF economy on the routes I frequent.

DJ are riding on smoke and mirrors branding rather than substance. Sorry to say it since I would love to see some serious competition for Qf especially at the biz end.

DJ have had enough years in the game to have got these things right, but for some reason (unimaginative owners???) blither along in no man's land.

Just my personal perceptions of course...