Which city pairs provide the CHEAPEST AIRFARES between EUROPE and ASIA?

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Considering taking the family (2A, 2 kids) to Europe next year.

Have enough QFF points to get to Asia rtn for all - provided we can find 4 seats on a flight.

This means we can get to SIN, BKK, HKG (and at a stretch to NRT, etc). From there the plan is to buy a rtn flight from Asia to Eupore (I'm seen some for around $1k rtn)

Once in Europe, we'll have a Eurail pass, so not really too fussed on where we will enter/exit other than needing to be in Tuscany for a wedding and Germany to visit some friends. (Mid September 2012)

What are the absolute cheapest fares from SIN/BKK/HKG to Europe? Is there any particular airline or city pair that throws up good affordability?

? IDEAS...:idea:
 
Im thinking more to do with airlines rather than cities.

For example, you can try EgyptAir (which I flew with them BKK-CAI-BCN for about a year ago for less than au$500). This price was also available for BKK-CAI-LHR (early July). And it was $1K return BKK-CAI-xx_-CAI-BKK

I was playing around with Asia-Europe flights and you can try Air Berlin, Qatar, Turkish as a starting point.
 
It's always worth a look at ITA Software. It's fairly quick to look at multiple city pairs over different stay periods. It's not exhaustive but covers many airlines. Best price this September is $A931 for a 30-day stay via Gulf Air.
 
Good luck getting point trips to Europe and back next Summer, I couldnt even get a single seat in early August.
 
Good luck getting point trips to Europe and back next Summer, I couldnt even get a single seat in early August.
You may have to try a muli-city search i.e SYD-SIN, SIN-LHR instead of SYD-LHR. You will probably have a longer layover than the usual 2 hours but availability should be better. Also try HKG, BKK and NRT. Unfortunately adding BA to the mix will increase the points above the ususl 64000. It may seem odd but you also fly via the US to Europe for 64000pts.
 
Air Asia X ex-KUL to London or Orly?

Also I think S7 had cheap fares via Moscow.
 
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IMHO it would be cheaper to purchase a cheap fare ex Aust to Asia & return then look at using your points Asia/Europe return.

How many points to you have to burn?
 
IMHO it would be cheaper to purchase a cheap fare ex Aust to Asia & return then look at using your points Asia/Europe return.

How many points to you have to burn?

About 500k pts. But I'm planning on using points for AUST - ASIA rtn in J, then purchasing cheapo ticket from Asia to Europe rtn. $1k seems to be about the cheapest... (but I've also seen $1.5 for Aust - Eur rtn as well)...
 
It may seem odd but you also fly via the US to Europe for 64000pts.

sounds cool if you like flying... should I assume that you can't have a stopover in the US on the way through to Europe on a 64k ticket?
 
You may have to try a muli-city search i.e SYD-SIN, SIN-LHR instead of SYD-LHR. You will probably have a longer layover than the usual 2 hours but availability should be better. Also try HKG, BKK and NRT. Unfortunately adding BA to the mix will increase the points above the ususl 64000. It may seem odd but you also fly via the US to Europe for 64000pts.
I did try a lot of combos. I was looking for PE and found a flight on a couple of days later. For 96000 points, the normal PE points.

So I clicked into the booking and again the header was Premium Economy. Went to the next stage of thebooking and saw a warning stating that:
Flight HRW to Singapore is in economy.
Flight Sing to Melbourne is in Economy. :shock:

They were going to slug the PE points and only book me into Economy seats (64,000 points)

I wonder how many people don't see the small print, think they have booked PE and rock up and get put into economy. And how the heck can Qantas legally do that!
 
Air Berlin seems to be a good option from BKK to either DUS or Berlin. (the new Brandenberg airport opens soon, as well as AB joing OneWorld early next year... meaning that we will get Lounge access as SG.)
 
Air Berlin seems to be a good option from BKK to either DUS or Berlin. (the new Brandenberg airport opens soon, as well as AB joing OneWorld early next year... meaning that we will get Lounge access as SG.)

Yep. Their Business Class is also very cheap. ~737 EUR (~1000 AUD) for BKK-DUS or BKK-TXL oneway.
 
If you are brave enough, Garuda has very cheap flights from CGK-DXB-AMS.
 
Usually I find for economy fares, the middle eastern carriers (Qatar, Etihad & Emirates), and occasionally the likes of LH, AF, KL, TG have good fares out of SIN & HKG for reasonable amount of money (in the order of $800-$1000 AUD). You could even be lucky and get a QF sale to FRA for this amount of money as well (but never to LHR). These two ports have the advantage you can get their non stop on Qantas from MEL without having to purchase add-ons (or routing via SYD) to get to an alternative stop such as Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City, Manila, Jakarta etc.., The catch being that you certainly won't find any fares at the moment for travel in Sep 2012 (need to wait until 12 mths prior to travel) and even then usually the sale fares tend to be <6 months from the date of travel with some exceptions. For business class, HKG and SIN are NOT the ports to look at, instead the cheaper options are from many of the other airports in Asia.
 
You seem to be stuck on the idea of using point to Asia but like somebody else suggested, try using using points from Asia to Europe.

The advantage of that is in that you know what you are spending in Au $ as opposed to have to deal with currency conversions. The other advantage is that you have more choice of partner airlines from Asia to Europe than you have out of Australia.

Another way to do this is to buy a one way ticket to Europe on points and one way from Europe back home for money, or the other way around. Most one way fares between Australia and Europe will allow a stopover in Asia, if this is where you want to stop to break the journey. As to which of these combinations is teh best, that could be down to luck and availability.

Apart from accounting for currency conversion and seasionality between certain destinations, there is no much science that you could apply to your decision.

One website that I personally find an absolute blessing for reserachign airfares on multiple carriers, is kayak.com. You can filter search results by alliance, by number of stops, one way versus return yourney, or even multi city journeys. You can ask for a quote to be given in the currency of your choice but be warned, this is just a search feature - the actual charge will be in the currency used by the retailer/ airline that sells you the flights. Anyway, have a little play and you may find a combination of flights that normally wouldn't have stood out as the most obvious one.

On the point of availability of reward flights, I am sure you know that QFF only shows some partner airlines using online search engine, yet for others, e.g. CX, you would have to call their call centre to find out, and if you decided to book it, would cost you additional points/ money to compensate for their service.

Finally, when seraching availability of rewards flighst online, cometimes it pays off to literally ask for a combination of flights that would take you through a transit port, a hub of that partner carrier. E.g. in my experience, I needed a flight from HKG to LHR and wasn't able to find one by enetering these two cities in the origin and destination. As I didn't care for a direct flight, I then searched for HKG-HEL and HEL-LHR, and was able to get both on AY. Another time, this same yourney was offered to me as HKG-HEL-LHR by the search engine.

There are reasons for why this happens as I work in the airline industry but it's going to take me too long to explain; basically, it's about individual carriers maximising their revenue between certain markets. The important thing for you to know is that sometimes you won't be offered the reward seats becaise they are not available but because you didn't 'ask' for them in a particular way. It's all about trial and erroe, and most importantly about persistance. If all fails, in the travelling party of 2A and 2C, it is feasible, at leats in my opinion, to fly 1A + 1C using one solution and the other 1A + 1C using another solution. You can time your arrival to be in the same spot at the same time and still enjoy the holidays as a family.

How you get there is mostly irrelevant, so long as it safe, reasonably priced and comfortable.

Hope I was of some assistance to you ...
 
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sounds cool if you like flying... should I assume that you can't have a stopover in the US on the way through to Europe on a 64k ticket?

I'm afraid no stopovers but you can have 23 h 59min on the ground if you can find the right flights. Last year we did SYD-LAX-ORD-DUB which was more cost-effective than via Heathrow (10000 pts less) and we arrived half an hour later than via Asia.
 
We have used QFF points to get to Singapore and then took Qatar Airways flight into Paris and came home Qatar from Munich back to Singapore to reconnect with Qantas - it was excellent. Service was good. They do sometimes have specials out of Singapore - ours was very low BC fares but sure their standard airfares would be good too. Not sure if they are generally the cheapest but have been voted best Airline 2011.
 
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