Travelling with a new born

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Hi all,

My wife and I are wanting to travel to Europe (Rome, Florence, Venice, Positano) next year in June, and believe we might need to factor in having a 3mth old baby (our first child) as part of these plans.

This would be out first child, so we're wondering if the idea of a family holiday is just too far fetched (learning how to be parents + all the travel + being in a foreign country + everything that comes with a new born...).

I was hoping to get some advice/feedback on if others had done similar trips and if it's manageable or just a nightmare? Considering travelling with a pram, car seat, and all our luggage plus all the stairs in Positano... is this just a really bad idea?
 
Travelling with a child that age is easier than a toddler. But I'd look at your destination selection more carefully. Beach holidays don't work all that well with young children. If you were able to consider it, then maybe Fiji or Pacific Islands where baby minding would be much easier while you two relaxed.
 
Couple of things if you do.

- It will not be relaxing for you and your partner. On. Any. Level. That I can promise you. You will come home more exhausted than when you left.

- Europe in summer is going to be very very hot for a baby you won’t be able to spend much time outside at all (as in minutes, maximum). Baby can’t handle heat.

- The places you have mentioned are going to be overrun with tourists probably just as bad as the over-crowding situation this year and there will be delays, hordes of people and issues. I’d consider something simpler and closer potentially?

- First 3 months is critical time to get your routines locked down, sleep training underway. This will not help. We had to work very hard to re-establish everything especially sleep hygiene when back from even a short local holiday. Good sleeping will save your sanity (and life!). Don’t let anything or anyone interrupt your sleeping plan for baby!

- First 3 months there are bound to be some little medical hiccups especially if you are exposing a baby to the world on that scale so quickly (virus/bacteria). You’ll need to make sure you are well up to speed on how you are going to get medical assistance at any hour when you are there.

- Baby minding services at resorts for a baby that young will be few and far between. I’m not sure I’d trust a stranger with my infant at that age anyway. But your call of course.

Personally - I would highly recommend instead taking a baby moon - have one last fun adults only uninterrupted holiday before everything gets harder/different…!
 
Thoroughly appreciate all the info. It looks like Europe is off the table! :(
After talking to a few friends as well, they too agree the heat and being by ourselves with no prior baby experience might be a bit too full on.
 
I have an 11 month infant. We talked to a few people about traveling when she was 6 months ect.. but realized very quickly that once she was born how important a routine is and how hard it will be.
You needs to factor the constant feeding, sleeping schedules. Then once a bit older play / moving is important for the baby to use up energy so they can sleep and develop.
With the first baby it’s all very new so now that my is 11 month, I would not recommend anyone to travel for a holiday and realize how silly I was for even thinking we could.
 
We travelled with Miss TomCat when she was four months and again at six months and found it pretty easy. Babies that age sleep anywhere so you can be on the go for naptime as long as you have a pram or carrier. At that age it's more about routine rather than schedule. They also don't need food at that age or lots of activities which takes some hassle out of things. Toddlers in the other hand....
 
We travelled with Miss TomCat when she was four months and again at six months and found it pretty easy. Babies that age sleep anywhere so you can be on the go for naptime as long as you have a pram or carrier. At that age it's more about routine rather than schedule. They also don't need food at that age or lots of activities which takes some hassle out of things. Toddlers in the other hand....
Toddlers and travel = exhaustion.
 
We travelled with Miss TomCat when she was four months and again at six months and found it pretty easy. Babies that age sleep anywhere so you can be on the go for naptime as long as you have a pram or carrier. At that age it's more about routine rather than schedule. They also don't need food at that age or lots of activities which takes some hassle out of things. Toddlers in the other hand....
From memory BC weren't your trips with MissTC to visit family overseas? If so this would be easier than what the OP is considering as there was support and potential help for you after the initial flights.
 
It has been a while but IIRC we started travelling with MissM when she was 1 or 2 months old (we only have one child) and it all seemed pretty easy but I also recall dragging around a fair bit of stuff. It is hard to provide advice as you will not know what your baby is like until born. For us it was easy as from time MissM she was born she tended to nap but mostly stayed awake during the day and slept all night.
 
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Hi all,

My wife and I are wanting to travel to Europe (Rome, Florence, Venice, Positano) next year in June, and believe we might need to factor in having a 3mth old baby (our first child) as part of these plans.

This would be out first child, so we're wondering if the idea of a family holiday is just too far fetched (learning how to be parents + all the travel + being in a foreign country + everything that comes with a new born...).

I was hoping to get some advice/feedback on if others had done similar trips and if it's manageable or just a nightmare? Considering travelling with a pram, car seat, and all our luggage plus all the stairs in Positano... is this just a really bad idea?
travelling is never a bad idea

however, I would wargame the scenarios ahead of time

what happens if its an unexpected Caesar or a difficult birth ? how much time needed for your wife to heal
perhaps baby has medical issues too - is prem in ICU or gets sick inside the first few months - or worse , you hit Europe and now the bub catches or develops a serious illness during travel because the immune system isn't sufficiently developed
both the gynaecologist and paediatrician could guide your options

and understand the division of labour BEFORE YOU DEPART (never thought there'd be a role for writing up all this on AFF but here goes.... the division of labour includes who gets up when the bub cries, is hungry, needs a cuddle, breastfeed or bottle) who cleans the bottles, plates, dummies, feeding napkins, clothes, pram, who makes up the babyfood, who feeds the bub, how to handle sickness of the bub and yourselves, who does the medications (nappy rash, whatever else) who changes the nappies, WHO BUYS nappies, who carts the luggage, who disposes of the wastage, what time you plan to wake up each day and go to bed. drinking of alcohol and so on so forth

we did it twice when the two boys were each 9 months of age.

on 1st trip, we stayed with my sister in Europe, stayed with a few friends and Youth Hostels or flight attendants (always someone under supervision who didn't mind a cute cuddle) but only with the one kinder...
on the second trip, we stayed with US friends but pre-dominantly by ourselves - the hotel drawer became a makeshift bed

its the parents responsibility 24/7 and it needs to be embraced by the both of you - easier said than done)

yes, you take a pram - most airlines will check it at the door - and loads of extra nappies and clothing
there's bulkheads with sleeping bassinets
yes, many things will take more time - running for the train ain't going to happen
you may need to linger longer at food stops and miss out on attractions, exhibitions or events so go easy on the pre-planned activities - you may need to yield for the child - it may be difficult to get a pram up stairways , European cities notoriously deficient on ramps nor lifts - not sure like for example how you conquer the Eiffel Tower, but you're not going to haul a pram up the stairs and in long queues in narrow corridors a pram might be problematic
and couple time - generally bonus if it eventuates


a child will open different doors to the local landscape through their own curiosity and interest in sounds and colours in the surrounding physical environment
you will see things you never would see as an adult


I'm not one to dissuade you from travelling, it will depend on your risk appetite and adventure spirit.
 
From memory BC weren't your trips with MissTC to visit family overseas? If so this would be easier than what the OP is considering as there was support and potential help for you after the initial flights.
Sort of. We went to Chicago to see family, but then we also took her across to Virginia, so hotels, hire cars, airports, the whole shebang. And Thailand on another trip, no family their either.
 
If you do decide on this trip, make sure you think through logistics very carefully. Be prepared to take as much luggage for the bub as you would for you and your partner combined.

Think about how you will travel once there. Hire car? Train? Buses? Plan for taxis/Ubers (or water taxis in Venice) for the last leg of each trip if you're not driving. Make sure your accommodation has on site parking if you are.

Practice folding and unfolding your pram until you can do it in 10 seconds. Now practice it one handed whilst juggling a full backpack in the other. If you have a cat, practice whilst holding the cat and the backpack at the same time.

If you are planning on trains, I would highly recommend booking seat reservations, preferably in a first class cabin where you will have more space. That time of year can be busy and the prospect of standing with that much luggage and a baby in a pouch, who will inevitably want to feed, sleep, scream and have their nappy changed all in the space of ten minutes, every ten minutes, can be very stressful.

Think about where you will stay. Do they have easy access for a pram? Are the streets nearby conducive to taking a pram? The geography of both Venice and Positano would be challenging for this - Rome and Florence less so, but only if you're staying somewhere close to what you want to see.

Plan what you'd like to do. Halve it, then halve it again. Then prioritise what's left and be prepared to only do half the things on that prioritised list. Really think about what you can do versus where you are. Your travel radius for the day will likely shrink far more than you think it can, so stay somewhere with close access to your top priority things. Be prepared for rest days where you do nothing but catch up on sleep and crawl down to the nearest pizzeria to grab takeaway for dinner - in fact, expect it.
 
Hi all,

My wife and I are wanting to travel to Europe (Rome, Florence, Venice, Positano) next year in June, and believe we might need to factor in having a 3mth old baby (our first child) as part of these plans.

This would be out first child, so we're wondering if the idea of a family holiday is just too far fetched (learning how to be parents + all the travel + being in a foreign country + everything that comes with a new born...).

I was hoping to get some advice/feedback on if others had done similar trips and if it's manageable or just a nightmare? Considering travelling with a pram, car seat, and all our luggage plus all the stairs in Positano... is this just a really bad idea?

We have been travelling in Rome last few days, currently in Florence, and will be going to Venice and Lake Como soon. The weather is very hot (38 - 40) and humid. Even at night it is very hot. My daughter (7 yo) got sick and and has been hard to recover due to the weather conditions.
 
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FWIW - mrsdoc and I “braved” a trip to Fiji when mindoc1 was 9mo. 6 days at the resort just the three of us.

We did BNE-SYD-NAN then NAN-SYD-MEL to visit family before heading home (additional 3 days).

We did little other than hang out at the resort whilst in Fiji (The Intercontinental). Plenty of naps for everyone.

We were glad we did it, but also glad of minimal timezone shift, daytime flight, healthy baby, no “pressure” of places to be, do, see, change location, etc.

I think you’d want eyes wide open to the challenge of the EU trip you’re proposing. And the limit to how much you’ll see With a relative newborn.

I’d also suggest as tempting as booking well in advance is, to hold off booking anything after bub has arrived, mum has recovered from delivery, Bub is healthy, vaccinations up to date etc, sleeping patterns somewhat settled etc. May cost more to book later, but i think you’ll get a better trip out of it as you’ll have found a routine for your family that works, and can plan around that (not least of which is flights / flight times).
 
We travelled from SYD to IAD with our now 7YO boy when he was about 6 months old, for my SIL's wedding in Washington DC. It was a lot of hard work and very exhausting, and to add to the fun - because we'd done quite well establishing his routine before that point, and were only going to be there less than a week - we largely just tried to keep the same hours & routine while over there! No adjusting to the time zone! Slept a good part of the day, and stayed up more overnight. There was very little 'holiday' about it at all. If not for the wedding, we would rather not have gone.

We flew QF/AA J & F and had a bassinet both ways, and needed a suite in DC to accommodate all the paraphernalia that was needed for feeding, cleaning, changing, etc. A light compact travel stroller that can also be used for sleeping while we were out was essential; we had the babyzen yoyo, which also had a bassinet type attachment. You could also fit certain car seats to the frame as well; if you were taking that with you. It folded to comply with carry-on sizing, so we never needed to be without it for more than the walk from the cabin door to the seat.

Good luck with everything - it does get better, slightly... after a few years... :D

Cheers,
Matt.
 
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