Skiing Queenstown, advice please?

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A bunch of mates and I are planning a trip to Queenstown in the middle of 2012 to go skiing. At this point it is likely to be 8 or so people perhaps… and a stack of the group are uni students so the definition of a flight is aluminium tube that gets you there. However does anyone have any experience with the Ski offering at Queenstown that may potentially make my experience a whole lot better?


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Howdy

A bunch of mates and I are planning a trip to Queenstown in the middle of 2012 to go skiing. At this point it is likely to be 8 or so people perhaps… and a stack of the group are uni students so the definition of a flight is aluminium tube that gets you there. However does anyone have any experience with the Ski offering at Queenstown that may potentially make my experience a whole lot better?


Cheers


Yes, go with a girl not a bunch of mates. :mrgreen:

Matt
 
Depends what level of skiers your group is really.

There are two mountains in Queenstown that are easily accessible. Coronet Peak is the tourist trap but has excellent facilities, high-speed lifts and is only half an hour from your accommodation most of the time.

The Remarkables on the other hand is slightly further away, with good facilities and no high-speed lifts, but very mountainous terrain, for the thrill seekers and better skiers/boarders. Both mountains are operated by the same company, so if you rent your equipment up one hill it’s easy to hand it in at the end of one day and get the same equipment at the other hill.

There’s plenty of unit accommodation in Queenstown, the place we usually stay (that my parents own) is a 3-floored unit with space for about 8, if using the sofa bed.

You can fly a few carriers there, the cheapest being Jetstar.

What else do you want to know, specifically?
 
Thanks that helps,

I don't have heaps of specific questions either but that description of the mountains helps, we are all diffrent levels of ability.

Do you know if it is very difficult to get accsess to more than 1 mountain? eg a lift pass that works on both or do you tend to get "stuck" on one?

It also appears jetstar don't let you book a ticket Adelaide- Queenstown and I am not one to book multipule flights on more than 1 ticket. Unless i am failing at using the JQ website...
 
Thanks that helps,

I don't have heaps of specific questions either but that description of the mountains helps, we are all diffrent levels of ability.

Do you know if it is very difficult to get accsess to more than 1 mountain? eg a lift pass that works on both or do you tend to get "stuck" on one?

It also appears jetstar don't let you book a ticket Adelaide- Queenstown and I am not one to book multipule flights on more than 1 ticket. Unless i am failing at using the JQ website...

As a kiwi personal preferences of mountains are Cardrona (#1) and Treble cone. Further away unless you stay in Wanaka instead of Queenstown but still absolutely doable. Last time I went skiing in Queenstown we spent more time at these two places than either Queenstown resorts. we tried them all but one day at Coronet Peak/Remarkables was enough. Coronet Peak has plenty of runs but gets very busy. Personally don't like the Remarkables at all, has some good runs but if snow not brilliant runs are very restricted. Cardrona has best range of runs and is usually totally uncrowded with some excellent on-snow restaurants, have always loved skiing here. Treble Cone has the best "hard" runs but no good at all for beginners or even really lower level intermediates.

Cardrona also has an excellent pub at the bottom of the mountain I seem to remember spending a fair bit of time at, just a good country pub but very easy to spend a fair bit of time there after a days skiing.
 
Thanks that helps,

I don't have heaps of specific questions either but that description of the mountains helps, we are all diffrent levels of ability.

Do you know if it is very difficult to get accsess to more than 1 mountain? eg a lift pass that works on both or do you tend to get "stuck" on one?

It also appears jetstar don't let you book a ticket Adelaide- Queenstown and I am not one to book multipule flights on more than 1 ticket. Unless i am failing at using the JQ website...

Unfortunately the lift passes don’t allow you to use both mountains, unless you have a specific season pass that allows that. Of interest perhaps, you can buy season passes pre-season (from 16 Feb at NZSki.com Home - NZ's premiere Ski and Snowboard Website) that are possible to pay off within a week of buying the everyday ski passes. Depends how long you’ll be skiing for of course. Cardona and TC probably offer the same, but see below as to which I think will be more cost effective ;)

Also, to use both mountains you’d have to drive down to town and back up the next one, as they’re not part of the same range. They look across at each other.

I don’t believe any airline flies from Adelaide direct to Queenstown. Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane will all fly direct though, so you’ll probably have to connect. Happy to be proved wrong though if a new service to Adelaide has begun and I’ve completely missed it :p

As a kiwi personal preferences of mountains are Cardrona (#1) and Treble cone. Further away unless you stay in Wanaka instead of Queenstown but still absolutely doable. Last time I went skiing in Queenstown we spent more time at these two places than either Queenstown resorts. we tried them all but one day at Coronet Peak/Remarkables was enough. Coronet Peak has plenty of runs but gets very busy. Personally don't like the Remarkables at all, has some good runs but if snow not brilliant runs are very restricted. Cardrona has best range of runs and is usually totally uncrowded with some excellent on-snow restaurants, have always loved skiing here. Treble Cone has the best "hard" runs but no good at all for beginners or even really lower level intermediates.

Cardrona also has an excellent pub at the bottom of the mountain I seem to remember spending a fair bit of time at, just a good country pub but very easy to spend a fair bit of time there after a days skiing.

I’ll chime in here just because I disagree with a few of your points :p

Cardrona, yes, totally agree it’s a great mountain for all abilities and with their expanded terrain, when they get a lot of snow, there’s a lot to do. They also have a noodle bar, which serves some great food and a cafe on the far side that’s great to meet at for lunch.

That said, it can get so incredibly busy up there that I usually spend 20 minutes waiting to get on the lifts, and have even waited longer in cases.

Cardrona Hotel is nice, though does get to be an issue if you want to drive home. Love sitting by one of the fires outside.

As for Treble Cone, while the terrain there is phenomenal for advanced riders, last year they had hardly any snow for ages, while everything else was still open. It’s a 2-hour drive from Queenstown, and most importantly, they rip locals and tourists off alike with their high prices.

I did a season on Treble Cone at the MECNZ hut halfway up the mountain and while I had some great times there, wouldn’t pay them what they wanted every year! I rarely go back, sadly.

Wanaka… nice town, been compared in a lot of different ways to Queenstown as an older-version or a less built up one but having lived there in 2006 I do think it’s gone down a little since then. I don’t want it to be Queenstown, but it honestly feels less fun than it was back then. I dunno.

I’d definitely say it’s worth a visit, but if you’re looking for a good experience, good times, fun bars, all that, it’s Queenstown. If you want a laid back holiday, perhaps Wanaka.
 
I’d definitely say it’s worth a visit, but if you’re looking for a good experience, good times, fun bars, all that, it’s Queenstown. If you want a laid back holiday, perhaps Wanaka.

Agree 100%, Treble cone is too tough for beginners, Cardrona is fantastic to ski but the location has drawbacks. The remarkables and coronet peak are easily accessible from Queenstown (even though I don't like the drive up to the remarkables). Coronet Peak does get crowded but that is because it has the best access and facilities.

If you want to have some fun after skiing then Queeenstown is the place to stay.
 
I personally much preferred Wanaka over Queenstown. Stayed there with a group of 7 for 8 nights a couple of years ago, rented a massive 4 bedroom house, walking distance in to town, dirt cheap. Yes not as many places to go out as Queenstown, but still great fun especially with a group. We also hired a 4WD that could take all of us up and down the mountain. I reckon having your own wheels is heaps better than using the shuttles. Maybe head over to ski.com.au and the forums there which I am also a member of, a lot of good advice to be found. Also have to be careful when you go, as generally the mid year Uni holidays aren't a very good time for snow over there. I usually used to just bum a week off Uni in August sometime.

With regard to your flights I haven't checked it out (and not sure if NZs winter schedules are loaded) but it may even be worthwhile AirNZ via Auckland (may be slightly longer though) or Virgin or QF through MEL/SYD.
 
I definitely recommend staying in Queenstown.
Let me throw my support behind Cadrona. It is well worth the drive and far and away my favourite mountain. I would avoid Treble Cone if you have any beginners in the group, but otherwise you should make an effort to visit all the mountains.

Here are some other quick tips I've learned from my last few trips:
  • Don't leave without eating at Fergburger!
  • I've found Outside Sports to be a great spot for ski rental. Always great equipment and staff.
  • Rent a 4WD (but not from Europcar if you can avoid it). Much better than the shuttles
  • Depending on how much you'd like to spend, A Touch of Spice has some great accommodation at the luxury end. Coronet View is pretty good for a larger group at the budget end of the spectrum.
  • Sydney Uni has an annual ski trip. Keep an eye on the Subski website so that you can avoid booking the same dates as their "tour of duty". Not worth sharing Queenstown with 200 uni students who take over any bar they enter.
  • Travel Insurance (I've seen how much the town's medical centre charges!)
I love Queenstown and hope you have a great trip!
 
With a group your size, and your own wheels - I'd consider Wanaka a live option- can get some very good rental deals and close to both TC and Cardrona.

IMHO - I was disappointed with NZ resorts (TC, Cardrona, Remarkables).

Having grown up in Melbourne (and regularly skiing at Victorian and USA resorts, with a little Canadian and Swiss on the side - I felt very let down with NZ.

I'd also grown up with people raving about how good NZ resorts were..... But I was terribly disappointed with the lack of infrastructure, lifts, even things such as sealed roads to the resorts.

In a good season - some of the terrain is spectacular, but IMHO no better or worse than what you get in Australia.

That said - living in CNS now, it's such a trek to get to the Victorian resorts that I may as well fly to NZ or the States.
 
I'd also grown up with people raving about how good NZ resorts were..... But I was terribly disappointed with the lack of infrastructure, lifts, even things such as sealed roads to the resorts.

In a good season - some of the terrain is spectacular, but IMHO no better or worse than what you get in Australia.

I’ll agree with you that they don’t spend their money on what you’d hope some times. Like Coronet Peak getting 200+ snow guns, brand new base building, all high-speed lifts etc, while Remarkables is still like it was when it opened in the 80’s. Though a few doubles were upgraded to quads.

That said, I spoke to a few of the guys last year and the plans they have sound very good, like a new high-speed life from below the carpark to halfway up Y-saddle (above where the Alta lift terminates now). And they’re trying to work out how to open up the back bowls too, over that saddle.

For those considering hiring a car, only Coronet Peak has sealed roads from the bottom of mountain to base building. To get to Cardrona the Crown Range road is sealed, but from the bottom of the Cardrona to the carpark is unsealed, same for Treble Cone and Remarkables.

I wouldn’t be too worried about it not being sealed, you certainly can worry less about black ice. And Remarkables now has a lot of guard rails on the side, to assure those that are put off by the sheer drops. Personally, I’ve never found the drive that bad, and can usually do it in 20 minutes… and I swear I don’t drive like a rally driver ;) the corrugations can sometimes be a pain if the grader hasn’t been out in the morning, but you just take it a little slower.

I’ve found the terrain to be steeper, if you like that, than Australia. Sure, there are a few mountains in Australia with good steep stuff, but I’d have said New Zealand, especially the South Island, is predominantly steep stuff. And sometimes, when the snow is light and hard to find, a walk never hurt anyone to find the freshies, hidden away in a chute :)
 
I don't know if this still applies, but in the past, if you are flying into Queenstown, it's best to do it on Air New Zealand as they are less likely to require a diversion when weather is not favourable.

The drive from Queenstown to Cardrona is quite do-able. Just remember to take it slow when you go down the mountain at the end of the day on the unsealed portions. Coronet Peak is probably good for 1 day-max.
 
Well thank you everyone i will take this advice on board and see how it ends up.
 
I'll suggest, as another poster has, getting a big house - our group did 4-5 nights each in both Wanaka and Queenstown - and a couple of cars. Awesome trip. Good value and you can keep costs down by self-catering.

As for skiing, the only place that isn't enjoyable, as a keen but intermediate skier, is Treble Cone. I've been a couple of times and each time the snow has been poor there, so perhaps that's relevant. Don't ignore the smaller club fields. Ohau was fantastic - mainly for the lack of crowds and the views - but the better skiers in our group were bored by the end of the day.
 
Howdy

A bunch of mates and I are planning a trip to Queenstown in the middle of 2012 to go skiing. At this point it is likely to be 8 or so people perhaps… and a stack of the group are uni students so the definition of a flight is aluminium tube that gets you there. However does anyone have any experience with the Ski offering at Queenstown that may potentially make my experience a whole lot better?


Cheers

Value Tours often has some good offers for skiing http://www.valuetours.com.au/tours-...new-zealand/south-island/queenstown/overview/
Queenstown is a great party village with lots to do in the event of mountain being closed. My advice would be to put off your trip for 12 months and ski Japan or Canada, even novice skiers will tackle the powder after a few days.
Also, I would not expect too much snow if you intend travelling "in the middle of 2012".
 


Value Tours often has some good offers for skiing Queenstown - South Island Ski Resorts | New Zealand Ski & Snowboarding | Value Tours
Queenstown is a great party village with lots to do in the event of mountain being closed. My advice would be to put off your trip for 12 months and ski Japan or Canada, even novice skiers will tackle the powder after a few days.
Also, I would not expect too much snow if you intend travelling "in the middle of 2012".

Yeah, unfortunately one of the costs of going as a group is choice of time and convincing people to pay the cost to hit up Canada, That would be my preference for sure ..
 
All the advice in here has been great, but I'd stick with Queenstown and hire a 4WD or two, if needed!

Also I would be going in August, rather than June or even July
 
All the advice in here has been great, but I'd stick with Queenstown and hire a 4WD or two, if needed!

Also I would be going in August, rather than June or even July

Coronet peak crowded and also often extremely icy - I found it unpleasant as a result. Bring your helmet. I personally would ski less often but save up for Japan on jetstar for example. A totally different experience, but thats just me and each to her own. And yes air NZ have some kind of extra guidance for difficult weather approaches to Queenstown, which is always an interesting flight.

One final piece of advice: lifts at queenstown are like vices- NEVER get in one with a backpack on!
 
Yet I found it deserted and had beautiful snow............

It's usually crowded and icy for me, although that varies day by day. I've found it boring after a day there though. On my last day there, my form of entertainment was racing against my friends. I'm a better skiier than they are, so after lunch, we kept going up and down the same parts of the mountain to see if I can lap them before the end of the day.
 
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