Qantas Double Status Credits [when?]

[Cin Cin]

Hi there, does anyone know how often Qantas have their double status credit offers? I'm getting impatient...lol

 

[JohnK]

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Hopefully never but from memory last one was early April 2016.

 

[Cin Cin]

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haha yes that's when I went hell for leather

 

[RichardMEL]

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man this should be a FAQ!

I am sure the subject/thread title got a lot of people excited too.

Hardly ever is the answer.. and just because there was one end of April/early May last year does NOT mean there will be another, or if there is when it might be, or if there's double SC attached, or some other figure (eg: +50%).

You'll just have to wait and keep an eye out.

 

[Pushka]

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You might get an offer near end of status year. I'm hanging out for that

 

[mviy]

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I can understand that you don't want one as a LTG JohnK, but some of us are still a long way off LTG and would like to get there a bit quicker.

I don't need another one for over a year now. My forward bookings (including one with DSC) will retain WP this year.

If an offer doesn't come for my next membership year I'll probably drop back to SG and need another DSC offer at some point to get back up to WP.

 

[RichardMEL]

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NEVER expect and then be happily surprised by either a targeted offer or a global one. That way never get disappointed.

That's what I think. I sure as heck wouldn't rely on a bonus offer, or be hanging out for one, to attain my personal goals.

 

[mviy]

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Bonus SC offers make Status Runs more worthwhile and help to speed up the process of reaching Lifetime status whether or not they are needed for this year. Also for some high status is more of a want than a need, so we'll only go for it if we think the cost is value for money.

 

[RichardMEL]

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I'll put it out there now that it would NOT surprise me if future SC offers have caveats that, for example, they will not apply to reaching P1 status and/or maybe LT status.

The more recent changes, Loyalty bonus SC conditions and so on all point to this sort of thing... and honestly while I have absolutely taken advantage of SC offers in the past, I would not have a huge problem with.

flame resistant suit donned

 

[mviy]

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Loyalty bonus SC do count to lifetime status, but not to P1

The whole point of bonus SC promos is to encourage flying that might not otherwise have been booked. I would be O.K. with it not counting to P1 as I'm unlikely to get that even with a DSC promo, but having it not count to lifetime status wouldn't make much sense as that's one of the drivers to encourage additional flying under such a promo. If they offered LTP I could understand them not wanting DSC promos to count towards that, but they don't offer Lifetime Platinum.

 

[RichardMEL]

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Loyalty bonus SC do count to lifetime status, but not to P1

I did not say that LB SC did not apply to LT SC total... I wrote that it points to changes like this. I am aware of the current situation.

The whole point of bonus SC promos is to encourage flying that might not otherwise have been booked. I would be O.K. with it not counting to P1 as I'm unlikely to get that even with a DSC promo, but having it not count to lifetime status wouldn't make much sense as that's one of the drivers to encourage additional flying under such a promo. If they offered LTP I could understand them not wanting DSC promos to count towards that, but they don't offer Lifetime Platinum.

To me it makes a lot of sense.

The whole purpose of bonus points or status credits promos is for revenue and spend *NOW* - either due to lack of forward bookings, low performing routes or just a desire in low booking/travel periods to get some more bums on seats.

If you're QF something like lifetime status is actually something you don't *really* want because it means little incentive to stay flying with QF once it's reached, except to use those benefits - it doesn't encourage any extra bookings for folks other than those thinking "Well I have LTG with QF and nothing with VA and prices around about the same I'll go QF" type of thing.

None of that is really relevant, in my view, in the context of trying to drive revenue in the short term, which again is the point of promos, sale fares etc.

Anyway QF may never change the teams of bonus SC promotions to exclude lifetime, but I can certainly see it as a logical progression of the changes already made - which was my point above.

My view anyway.

 

[mviy]

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DSC helping lifetime status would imply:

1. Some people may not realise they'll likely never get there but still use adding to their lifetime status as a motivation to use such an offer. If you don't reach LT status ever DSC counting to LT status might help PCV if anything. Practically no cost to QANTAS.
2. If someone already has 14000+ lifetime SCs extra lifetime SCs has very little/no benefit. It may have PCV but that would be it. Giving more lifetime SCs to these travellers has practically no cost to QANTAS.
3. Someone who is approaching LT status may bring forward some travel plans to the current year in order to try to lock in LT status sooner. QANTAS is chasing spend happening earlier so this is a good thing for QF.
4. Those who are approaching LT status may use this as motivation to fly QF rather than other carriers in the short term as you don't get DSC for flying partner airlines. QF would rather you get to LT status flying QF metal.

All positives for QF in my view.

LTS would have very little cost to QANTAS. You get one lounge pass a year, extra points when flying, improved upgrade chance and extra baggage. Not much.

Sure once you get to LTG you might have less incentive to fly QF afterwards but I would think that most people would probably stick with QF. Sure a number here might go and fly other OneWorld carriers a lot more but that's probably not representative of the general QFF population.

Even with DSC for most people LTG will probably take a lifetime of work & leisure flying to reach. QANTAS uses these offers to encourage booking flights a long way out especially hoping for bookings that might not otherwise have been done.

 

[RichardMEL]

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In my view you're making one very large assumption - that a majority of people notice or care about LT status. The small world of folks who actually care about such things to any degree represented by the people on AFF, FT and similar forums are a very small number of the FF base; I know of people who have reached status and don't realise what it means or the benefits, let alone worrying about anything longer term.

I am sure in QF's view the number of people motivated purely by things like reaching lifetime goals are pretty small - which is an argument for them not to change any T&C on bonus promotions except for the fact that because it's a relatively small number (remember the QFF member base is >10 million or so QF claims) that it would be a small change that would affect very few... a very vocal few that is who would notice and take issue. It's just the sort of thing, again in my view, that a bean counter would notice and think "hmm, why give them free LT status sooner?"

It's one thing to look at these promotions from a customer point of view, as in what we want and can make the most use of, and then there's the provider's point of view, and their goals. As we all know none of this stuff is actually about us, but about revenue

Anyway I've said my piece on this issue. Like I said it wouldn't surprise me if things moved that way in the future. Not suggesting it should, or it will, but it seems a logical progression from changes made so far.

 

[RichardMEL]

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oh and THANK YOU to the mod or whoever modified the title

 

[JohnK]

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I can understand that you don't want one as a LTG JohnK, but some of us are still a long way off LTG and would like to get there a bit quicker.

Lifetime Gold status is not my concern. It's my Platinum status that looks and feels more like Gold status everyday that concerns me.

But hey bring on a double SC offer. I'll take full advantage without losing any sleep. I need all the tricks I can get to make status just that little bit cheaper.

 

[mviy]

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In my view you're making one very large assumption - that a majority of people notice or care about LT status.

Of course the main purpose of DSC is for status for the current/next year, but LT status for some e.g. me is a secondary consideration. That little bit of extra value that makes chasing status in the short term worthwhile.