JQ/3K moving to T4 at SIN in March 2023 (previously October 2022) :-(

[AIRwin]

I understand Changi are going to introduce a direct airside bus from T1 to T4 now as well which might help.

 

[henrus]

Anyone heard any updates on this. It's less than 3 weeks before the possible change and 3K/JQ is still selling flights departing from T1.

Obviously a switch to T4 would change MCTs so I'd have thought they would have updated flights to T4 sooner rather than later to resolve any short MCT issues. Perhaps the possible 25 October date will be delayed?

 

[serfty]

Anyone heard any updates on this.

T4 reopened a a bit over three weeks ago.

Get ready: What to expect at the reopened Changi Terminal 4 - The MileLion

Changi Airport Terminal 4 will reopen on 13 September after a two-year hiatus. Here's what passengers can look forward to.

milelion.com

Changi's later releases on this make no mention of 3K, but I doubt this is resolved "CAG said on Tuesday that the two sides are still in the midst of a joint study of the issue.".

T4 Announcements | Singapore Changi Airport

Changi Airport T4 Resumption of Operation on 13 September 2022 After a long 2 years of hiatus due to the pandemic, Changi Airport Group (CAG) has announced that the airport operations in T4 will resume to accommodate higher travel demands. With the use of automation technology from check-in...

www.changiairport.com

Changi's T4 handles 1,000 passengers on first day of reopening since the pandemic

SINGAPORE - A small fanfare of orchid bouquets, souvenirs and live music performances greeted the first passengers arriving at Changi Airport Terminal 4 on Tuesday as it reopened after more than two years. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

 

[Hampton Mike]

Well, that was a shock when I came across this thread!!

I have a Jetstar MEL-HKT flight booked in early December, with the return transiting through SIN. Now that I'm P1 I'd been looking forward to the QANTAS First lounge at SIN during transit, and was even happy when advised last week that the departure time for SIN-MEL had dropped back almost an hour. Now it sounds like I might need all that extra time just to get over to T1 and back again if I'm to use the First lounge.

However, my December flights are still available on the Jetstar website going into T1 on arrival at SIN (and also departure from T1 obviously).

Fingers crossed that the joint study is still underway by December, and hopefully it stays that way.

Certainly this is a thread for me to watch!!

 

[henrus]

However, my December flights are still available on the Jetstar website going into T1 on arrival at SIN (and also departure from T1 obviously).

Very frustrating given the total lack of communication. In theory they're meant to move in 2 days time which clearly isn't happening but they could have at least put out a statement making very clear this is delayed.

 

[Saab34]

This article only came out a few hours ago.

Jetstar Asia to stay in T1 for now, with CAG set to make announcement soon

The slated move to T4 will not happen by Oct 25. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

 

[Saab34]

Jetstar Asia to move operations to Changi Airport T4 by 25 March

There was a disagreement over the move before, which has since been resolved. What happened?

au.finance.yahoo.com

 

[jrfsp]

Jetstar Asia to move operations to Changi Airport T4 by 25 March

There was a disagreement over the move before, which has since been resolved. What happened?

au.finance.yahoo.com

No mention of jetstar 787 flights, only Jetstar Asia

 

[AFF Editor]

No mention of jetstar 787 flights, only Jetstar Asia

I reached out to Jetstar, and they informed me that they haven't yet made a decision on whether the MEL-SIN Jetstar 787 flights will also move to Terminal 4.

Jetstar Moving to Terminal 4 in Singapore

Jetstar Asia flights from Singapore will depart from Terminal 4 at Changi Airport from next March. Once this change takes effect by 25 March 2023, it will

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[Saab34]

JQ7 appears to also have had a permanent schedule change, now 1520pm departure from Melbourne.

 

[dajop]

JQ7 appears to also have had a permanent schedule change, now 1520pm departure from Melbourne.

Makes sense not to just mirror the timing of QF35. Both QF and AY codeshare on JQ 7 and as long as the flight doesn’t revert to September levels of punctuality, provide shorter connections to QF 1 to LHR and AY’s service to HEL.

 

[Mattg]

JQ7 appears to also have had a permanent schedule change, now 1520pm departure from Melbourne.

It's basically just taken on the timing of QF37/38, which was scheduled to restart around now but is no longer happening.

 

[muppet]

Makes sense not to just mirror the timing of QF35. Both QF and AY codeshare on JQ 7 and as long as the flight doesn’t revert to September levels of punctuality, provide shorter connections to QF 1 to LHR and AY’s service to HEL.

Just what premium long haul QF and AY customers want, to fly JQ half way to Europe hidden under a QF or AY code.

 

[dajop]

Just what premium long haul QF and AY customers want, to fly JQ half way to Europe hidden under a QF or AY code.

At the back of the bus, most long haul customers will see an in all likelihood cheaper and shorter duration trip than all the way through on QF. ANd therefore will take it.

Now that JQ seems to be back running on time, unless you're drinking from the fountain of QF Kool-Aid the JQ 787 economy product isn't really that much different to the QF economy product. Personally, If between MEL and SIN after paying for the bundle that gives points, baggage and a meal, I am not really that interested in paying too much extra for QF, as the experience is not that much different.

 

[muppet]

At the back of the bus, most long haul customers will see an in all likelihood cheaper and shorter duration trip than all the way through on QF. ANd therefore will take it.

Now that JQ seems to be back running on time, unless you're drinking from the fountain of QF Kool-Aid the JQ 787 economy product isn't really that much different to the QF economy product. Personally, If between MEL and SIN after paying for the bundle that gives points, baggage and a meal, I am not really that interested in paying too much extra for QF, as the experience is not that much different.

Absolutely fair comment, but if you’re flying on a QF code you’ve already paid the QF premium.

I fly JQ and have flown JQ MEL-SIN but it was over half the price of QF and for good reason. Paying a QF price, I’d expect the QF product.

Especially considering you’re talking about the JQ flight replacing the old QF A380 flight which is miles ahead in comfort at the back of the bus compared to JQ.

 

[Mattg]

Now that JQ seems to be back running on time, unless you're drinking from the fountain of QF Kool-Aid the JQ 787 economy product isn't really that much different to the QF economy product.

I agree with most of your comments, but not this one. The Jetstar 787 economy product is significantly worse than QF in economy IMHO. (Even on the same aircraft type, Qantas has 2 inches more legroom and a much better soft product.)

 

[AIRwin]

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The transit bus between T1 and T4 runs 24 hours:

Transfer Between Terminals & Jewel | Singapore Changi Airport

Getting around Changi Airport is easy on foot, or by Skytrains and shuttle buses. Find out how to travel between Terminals 1, 2, 3 and 4, as well as Jewel.

www.changiairport.com

 

[V1213]

The transit bus between T1 and T4 runs 24 hours:

Transfer Between Terminals & Jewel | Singapore Changi Airport

Getting around Changi Airport is easy on foot, or by Skytrains and shuttle buses. Find out how to travel between Terminals 1, 2, 3 and 4, as well as Jewel.

www.changiairport.com

Would be good to know how long this trip takes, especially T1 -> T4 via T3.
The 10-13 min frequency equates to an average 6 min wait time + ~10 min bus ride?

Who wants to be the first person to go for a ride and report back?

 

[jrfsp]

Be interesting to see how many connections have to be retimed or just no longer work

 

[Hampton Mike]

I’m flying HKT-SIN-MEL (3K then JQ) on 11 December and have 3 hour layover at SIN. When I booked it I was anticipating enjoying the SIN First Lounge for a couple of hours, and was then shattered to see the 25 October date for Jetstar changing terminals from T1 to T4.

However I’m very pleased that this has moved out to 25 March, so I won’t be reporting back on terminal transfer times.