Heathrow Fast Track = Farce

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We arrived into LHR on QF1 yesterday morning just about on time and pulled up at T3 beside QF9 from Melbourne. All was well and we were prepared for the beast that is T5 and having been sat in 13A/B were first off the upper deck.

We got to a rather large queue at the T3 transit bus stop and waited around 10 minutes for a T5 bus to arrive (not the advertised every 7 minutes). We were 2 of the last 5 crammed into the bus and I reckon there were another 2 bus loads in the queue when we pulled away.

On arrival into T5 all was still ok and with fast track cards in hand we were expecting the good run to continue. HALT RIGHT THERE! We were about 10th in the fast track queue with the woman at the counter clearly concerned that she was being asked to move to the side and wait for someone, a visa issue from what we gathered. She was not going down without a debate on the situation!

As all of this was happening, the bog standard queue next to us flowed freely and the tension in the fast track queue built. In fact, the normal queue flowed so freely that they came to a stop as the queue had built to a stand going through the face scanning area. At this point, one of the passport checkers suggested to the woman controlling the area that she should get the fast track queue moving rather than everyone standing everywhere. WELL DONE THAT MAN!! However, the woman, who clearly should not have been in such a position (and not because of her gender) clearly did not get the message and she started sending the normal queue through and diverted them into the Fast Track lane. At that point I and a couple of others made our voices heard which eventually got us moving. Why should it take passengers to point this sort of stuff out? Surely it should be obvious to the 'professionals' who do this day in and day out.

We proceeded to the final hurdle of security to be met with anyone wandering into the Fast Track lane again, no real control of the situation again. Security screening was just as painful as ever and in no way consistent with the screening of Sydney and Singapore but I guess that would make it all too easy if it were the same standard everywhere. I don't recall one male out of the 6 in front of me not setting the alarm off for something that they had on them. This of course all resulted in further delay as bags mounted up on the other side of the screening with nobody to collect them as the queue built.

We eventually got to the lounge and the showers and bacon sandwiches just after 0800, some 90 minutes after we landed. Last time it was around an hour so it was very disappointing to be delayed when a lot of the delays were caused by staff who clearly did not know what they were doing coupled with very slow processing.

Come on QF and EK, help us get away from the LHR nightmare!
 
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LHR T5 is a logjam at the best of times. Having Fast Track is still better than none at all.

Not QF or EK's fault in this case - just a few idiot officials (can't call them that to their faces - could be fined or jailed in UK) who can't work the lines, let alone deal with an errant pax who obviously should've been told firmly to move aside or be forcibly moved (and the pax behind her should've been just as chiding of her childish attitude).

Mind you, express path out of SYD can be a basketcase job too; I stand at the express line and people are being attended to faster in the regular line, which is no surprise when there are 10 times more counters serving normal pax compared to 1 for express pax. Plus, just cos a pax is standing in the express path line is no guarantee that they are not a moron. The boffins who planned the traffic and such characteristics of these express schemes often fail to account for this factor.

With any luck, with the new alliance, T3 - T5 transfers could be a thing of the past (in fact, even no LHR transit required).
 
My QF/EK reference meant transfer in DXB and immigration in NCL rather than having the punish of LHR. It was nothing to do with them in any way affecting what happens at LHR, clearly nobody can solve that problem.

I followed (visually) a couple who did not have Fast Track and they made it through the process in the same time as us, hence why Fast Track is a farce when it is managed by incompetence. I accept we travelled during major holidays and extra staff will have been called in but surely experienced staff should be doing key duties to keep the large queues moving as quickly as possible.
 
I hate immigration at LHR full stop. When I had IRIS, I loved it though. I would walk from the plane, look into a camera and I was straight into the country.

Security at LHR is also a total PITA. They are overstaffed, but go slow. So infuriating.

They have been investigating options like sped up entry for Australians - but not sure of the progress on that.
 
You don't go to LHR unless you have to is the clear message. They run that airport the way they run their economy.

Yes bring on the DXB options and for once it will be better to fly direct.

I avoid bad airports its that simple.
 
Heathrow- same as LAX. Avoid or brace yourself for the worst nightmare in the world. All that can happen then is that you somehow end up with a non-busy time and it goes half-way smoothly. Which seems to happen at both ports in about 50% of cases in my experience.

Saying that- SYD and MEL international arrivals are often not in the slightest better depending on when (and with what other planes) you arrive.
 
Heathrow- same as LAX. Avoid or brace yourself for the worst nightmare in the world. All that can happen then is that you somehow end up with a non-busy time and it goes half-way smoothly. Which seems to happen at both ports in about 50% of cases in my experience.

Saying that- SYD and MEL international arrivals are often not in the slightest better depending on when (and with what other planes) you arrive.


Its a global problem,some places are better equipped such as HKG and SIN.
 
Its a global problem,some places are better equipped such as HKG and SIN.

Agreed. With some of the Asian ports I suspect simply lot of money and political power standing behind it. What I find rather interesting is how some very similar countries/cities somehow manage better than others and I'm not an expert in this at all. Does anyone know? Why is Amsterdam so much better set up that LHR, FRA or CDG? Why does Auckland work so much better than any of the bigger Australian ports? DFW or ATL so much better than LAX or JFK? Is it structural, political, economical or what ever reasons? Ownership structure or rather ongoing management?

I'd be curious to learn more about it if anyone has some opinions/ knowledge on here.
 
The security screening at T4 is a farce. So much hand luggage is sidetracked for further checks and it appeared there were not enough staff to clear them, resulting in passengers milling around and being frustrated.
 
The security screening at T4 is a farce. So much hand luggage is sidetracked for further checks and it appeared there were not enough staff to clear them, resulting in passengers milling around and being frustrated.

Totally agree
Had been milling there many times

I will avoid LHR waiting for Berlin's new airport.
 
I'd heard a rumour that QF had been studying the BA Fastrack process quite closely......apparently they based Premium Boarding on it!

:p

..with that out of the way my experiences as T3 and T5 have been pretty poor with Fastrack. It really does need sorting out.
 
Totally agree
Had been milling there many times

I will avoid LHR waiting for Berlin's new airport.

Copenhagen Airport is another alternative if it provides connections beyond. I've stayed in T2 there and the extensive shopping and eating options are quite pleasing. (For PPass cardholders, the Novia lounge provides access to complimentary food and drinks. No showers in lounge though. Access requires passengers to clear Passport Control but it' quite speedy.)
 
..with that out of the way my experiences as T3 and T5 have been pretty poor with Fastrack. It really does need sorting out.

LHR fast track only allows 1 guest pax as WP so person #2 I was flying with went through the normal line, myself and person #1 went through fast track. The normal line was quicker - person #2 was waiting for us on the other side!!
 
Agree with all comments about Heathrow. Hilariously, when last arrival from Venice thru Gatwick we walked into the customs hall, ours hearts sunk as the we sighted the sea of humanity.
However they were all POMS and EU card holders. The queue for "Othes" was the wife ,myself and a lovely Japanese girl. We were thru in less than 5mins!
To top it off, exiting via the green nothing to declare door I spotted a local who was trying to sneak through a duffle bag with at least 30 cartons of smokes, His cunning plan was foiled by customers office Plod...too funny
Up until thenI thought most of the boarder security stuff on TV was a set up.
The real crime is for what monopoly airport owners charge airlines(and by default the flying public) is the disgrace.
 
Agree with all comments about Heathrow. Hilariously, when last arrival from Venice thru Gatwick we walked into the customs hall, ours hearts sunk as the we sighted the sea of humanity.
However they were all POMS and EU card holders. The queue for "Othes" was the wife ,myself and a lovely Japanese girl. We were thru in less than 5mins!
To top it off, exiting via the green nothing to declare door....

I second that - I hold a UK and Australian passport and quite often use the Australian one at Gatwick, overall I have found Gatwick to be better than LHR but I may have just been lucky with the timing of arrivals.
 
Agree with all comments about Heathrow. Hilariously, when last arrival from Venice thru Gatwick we walked into the customs hall, ours hearts sunk as the we sighted the sea of humanity.
However they were all POMS and EU card holders. The queue for "Othes" was the wife ,myself and a lovely Japanese girl. We were thru in less than 5mins!
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Ive had that happen to me in Manchester! The five of us in the same party and a sole Asian girl. And the UK/EU lime at least a couple of hundred deep!
 
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