Air NZ J Special

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I know most of you are OW loyal, but for those of you who are on the dark side (just kidding) with *A, Air NZ just released a pretty good J Class fare of $6619 inc taxes (ex. BNE/SYD/MEL/OOL) with slightly higher fares on offer ex ADL/CNS/PER for travel 9 May-30 Nov. 2010 and on sale to 31 March 2010.

Given its normally $10145 inc taxes, its not a bad saving.

TG
 
Hi TG,

Where might the destination for this fare be, exactly? ;)
 
Gosh i'm clever sometimes...no wonder they say men can't multitask!

It's LAX.

TG
 
Aha, somewhat less attractive.

Isnt that around the usual VA price (for "discount J) and thus would be easier direct rather than via AKL??
 
Thanks TG!
For anyone interested, I've located the fare in EF - the fare basis is JSPCLF.
Full rules:
Code: 
**SEASONALITY**
FOR JSPCLF FARES
   PERMITTED 09MAY 10 THROUGH 30NOV 10.

**FLIGHT APPLICATION**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
       THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
         AC FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 6199
         AC FLIGHTS 6500 THROUGH 7649
         AC FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9499
         AC FLIGHTS 9551 THROUGH 9999
         UA FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 5199
         UA FLIGHTS 5700 THROUGH 5799
         UA FLIGHTS 8100 THROUGH 9515
         UA FLIGHTS 9593 THROUGH 9999
         AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
         AS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 9999
         AA FLIGHTS 5600 THROUGH 8399
         NW FLIGHTS 3700 THROUGH 9999
         DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 4364
         DL FLIGHTS 6950 THROUGH 9999
         US FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5299
         US FLIGHTS 5350 THROUGH 8799
         CO FLIGHTS 3500 THROUGH 4899
         CO FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 8634
         CO FLIGHTS 8836 THROUGH 9490
         CO FLIGHTS 9596 THROUGH 9999.
   AND.
          NOTE -
           WHEN US IS THE ADDON CARRIER-PASSENGER NAME RECORD
           MUST INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING TO AVOID AUTO
           CANCELLATION OF US SEGMENTS OSI US INTL BKG WITH
           NZ.
   AND
   THE PRICING UNIT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC
   SECTORS ON
       ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
         ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ
       FOR OUTBOUND AND/OR INBOUND TRAVEL.

**ADVANCE RES/TICKETING**
FOR JSPCL- TYPE FARES
   RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
   TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER
   RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

**MINIMUM STAY**
NONE FOR JSPCLF FARES

**STOPOVERS**
FOR JSPCL- TYPE FARES   NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY
   2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION IN AKL/
       LAX/SFO.

**TRANSFERS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
     FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE
      FARE COMPONENT.
          NOTE -
           AS PER THE SPECIFIED ROUTING
           ------
           SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED AT PSGRS EXPENSE

**PERMITTED COMBINATIONS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   END-ON-END
     END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES
     WITHIN NEW ZEALAND. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES
     MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE
     VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
   ADD-ONS
     COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITHIN AUSTRALIA/THE UNITED
     STATES.
   OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
     FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
     -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
     -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
      CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
        THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY
    PROVIDED -
      COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER NZ BETWEEN
      AUSTRALIA AND CANADA
      OR FOR CARRIER NZ BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND THE UNITED
      STATES
      OR FOR CARRIER NZ BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND MEXICO
      OR FOR CARRIER NZ BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND INTL. POINTS IN
      THE CARIBBEAN AREA
      OR FOR CARRIER NZ BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND CENTRAL AMERICA
      IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

**SURCHARGES**
NONE FROM/TO THE UNITED STATES

**SALES RESTRICTIONS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31MAR 10.
 UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EITHER THE PLATE OR STOCK OF NZ.
   EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
 UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
          NOTE -
           EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
           GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER.  CONTACT
           CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

**PENALTIES**
FOR JSPCL- TYPE FARES   NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY
   CANCELLATIONS
     BEFORE DEPARTURE
       CHARGE AUD 330.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
       CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
       WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER.
          NOTE -
           FULL REFUND IN CASES OF REFUSAL OF TRAVEL
           DOCUMENTS OF PSSENGER/COMPANION BOOKING ON THE
           SAME FLIGHTS/DATES.
           ---
           WITHIN ONE YEAR OF ISSUE THE FARE PAID MAY BE USED
           AS A CREDIT TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A HIGHER
           NZ FARE FROM AUSTRLIA TO USA PROVIDED THE HIGHER
           FARE PERMITS SUCH AN UPGRADE. REISSUED TICKETS
           MUST BE ENDORSED - UPGRADED FROM THE JSPCLC NONREF
           AUD330.00.  IF THE UPGRADED TICKET IS SUBSEQUENTLY
           CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL PENALTY WILL APPLY.
   CHANGES
     ANY TIME
       CHARGE AUD 150.00.

**HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
   STOPOVERS.

**TICKET ENDORSEMENT**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
   NONENDORSABLE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

**CHILDREN DISCOUNTS**
FOR J- TYPE FARES   NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY
   ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
         TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
   OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
          THE FARE
   OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
          THE FARE
   OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
          FARE.

**TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
          NOTE -
           DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
           AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

**AGENT DISCOUNTS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
          NOTE -
           DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
           AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

**ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS**
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
          NOTE -
           DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
           AT THIS TIME.  CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
 
Quite an attractive fare, and it's not like AKL is the most difficult airport to transfer at.

In fact, some have been known to cop the AKL transfer rather than cop 14 hours in UA's old Biz.
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Travel Guru said:
Amen indeed!


Hows Paris treating you NYC?

TG
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Well, to be honest, I miss New York at the moment. Paris is a lovely city and we have spent a lot of time here previously, but NY is simply on another level. I really wish that Concorde was still in service, because it would make weekend trips considerably less arduous. It's just a matter of acclimatising, and I'm sure that I'll adapt.

Having said that, the job is brilliant. It's only a few short years ago that I was writing credit derivatives for a large investment bank, and now I'm doing something so different that I have to pinch myself sometimes to ensure I'm awake. (And yes, I probably did make a contribution to the "credit crunch", but to quote Krusty the Klown, "They drove a dump truck full of money up to my house!. I'm not made of stone!")

My partner (The Spending Machine) is much, much happier in Paris, since we are so much closer to the family in Zurich, friends in London and, of course, friends here in Paris. A happy partner means a relaxed home-life and that's a relief. The language isn't a problem since TSM and I have only been speaking French to each-other for about 3 years now, initially to get me up to speed (meetings at HQ are in exclusively in French, so you speak well it or you don't get very far) and then to keep us both on the ball whilst living in NY, where most people don't even speak English properly. My accent is getting better and better, too: soon I hope to have snooty waiters in fancy restaurants desist from asking me if I require the English menu.

So I suppose it's all good. The cold will be over soon (it's precisely 0 degrees Celsius right now at 10.16am, and -4 with wind-chill, but let's face it, NY isn't exactly Curaçao either!) and then I'll be right! :)
 
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Travel Guru said:
I know most of you are OW loyal, but for those of you who are on the dark side (just kidding) with *A, Air NZ just released a pretty good J Class fare of $6619 inc taxes (ex. BNE/SYD/MEL/OOL) with slightly higher fares on offer ex ADL/CNS/PER for travel 9 May-30 Nov. 2010 and on sale to 31 March 2010.

Given its normally $10145 inc taxes, its not a bad saving.

TG
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It sounds like quite a good saving, but I can't quite see who would actually use it (NYCguy notwithstanding).

The corporates of this world have their contracts with the airlines, so it doesn't really impact them, and the number of private citizens (like me) who would want to pay out this kind of money for 2 x 12+ hour flights is fairly limited, I would have thought.

For $6,600 I can buy 3 x round trip tickets from LHR to MEL, all upgraded to C class, and earn over 150,000 *A miles in the process.

Am I missing something? I'm not super rich like NYCguy, but I'm not a pauper either (I'm cash rich and asset poor).

And BTW, you didn't mean the dAArk side did you?
 
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