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35k mile ROUTING CHALLENGE in F - Experts only please

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timmy-t

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So, I want to burn 420k QFF points and do a 35k mileage redemption in First. Aug/Sep this year...

I'm trying to create an experience whereby I will try F on the best OW carriers as well as their signature lounges.
e.g. CX F + lounge in HKG, QF F + lounge MEL/SYD, BA F + Concorde lounge from LHR, JL, etc.

I have tried QF F, so not essential, but I think that's the only way of getting out of MEL on F on a OW carrier? (I don't believe I can do EK for this redemption).

The only must go cities on the itinerary are: PMI (for a wedding), HAM and SAN (to visit Relos).

I feel I'm getting close, but not quite right yet.... any suggestions would be welcome. I love flying, so maximum flights and routes for the 35k miles would be brilliant.

I'm keen to try F on: CX, JAL, Qatar, if possible. BA F on the 787 would be good too I reckon.

Sample 1:
MEL-LAX (QF)
LAX-SAN - stop 1(AA)
SAN-LAX
LAX-JFK (AA) transcon F
JFK - HND (JL)
HND - HKG (CX) - I think they still do F on this route?
HKG - DUS (CX) -stop 2
DUS - PMI (J - Niki or AB) - stop 3
PMI - HAM (J - Niki or AB) - stop 4
HAM - LHR (J - BA)
LHR - AUH (F - BA)
AUH - DOH (F- QR)
DOH -MEL (do they fly F to MEL yet, or do I need to go via SYD?)

Anyway, I think this is too many miles but you get the idea of what I'm trying to do...

Anyone have any sample routings they want to share to demonstrate their brilliance?? :confused:

Sample 2::idea:
MEL-syd-hnd-hkg-dus-pmi-dus-lhr-auh-doh-lax-san-lax-mel
is 34,867 miles, but no JAL F and Syd-HND is QF J
 

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Ok I'll go First, excuse the pun ))

MEL-SYD QF J
SYD-SIN BA F
SIN-HKG CX F
HKG-BKK CX F
BKK-HND JL F ( or go BKK-HKG-HND on CX F for another crack at the wing )
HND-LHR JL F (nice 12.5hrs of bliss)
LHR-DUS BA J
DUS-PMI (as u said)
PMI-HAM (as u said)
HAM-LHR BA J
LHR-MCT BA F (787-9 newer F)
MCT-DOH QR F (regional F)
DOH-SYD QR F
SYD-MEL QF J

Trip excludes QF F but as you said no matter.

31053 miles, good luck finding award seats ))

Such a shame JL has canned F to/from SYD the only way to F'it to Asia on OW alliance is BA now (
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RichardMEL

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You're like 4 months out. Finding availability would be a stroke of luck on a lottery scale IMHO.

I reckon this is the sort of thing you want to plan for a year or so out and snaffle the seats as they come out.

I'd also note that I think it may be an illegal RTW itin to go OZ-USA-North Asia-Europe-OZ..(though happy to be corrected by OW routing freaks :) ). I'd think you prob need to do it OZ-USA-EUR-Asia-OZ. You couldspice it up with a drop in on South America too if you wanted to max your miles, thouh LA doesn't have an F to offer and I wouldn't count much on AA, though maybe something like DFW-HKG (or v.v. could be an option?)

just my 2 cents.
 

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Something like this could be possible:

MEL-LAX QF F
LAX-SAN AA J (stop 1)
SAN-LAX AA J
LAX-NRT JL F (stop 2)
NRT-HKG CX F
HKG-FRA CX F
FRA-PMI HG J (stop 3)
PMI-HAM AB J (stop 4)
HAM-LHR BA J
LHR-MCT BA F (LHR-DOH via Muscat as per Croupier's suggestion)
MCT-DOH QR reg. F (stop 5)
DOH-MEL QR F

All up this comes to 34,981 miles and gives you 12/16 permitted segments.

Getting award availability on all of these flights will be a whole different challenge. It should be possible on most flights IF you book a year in advance - probably not if you're booking 4 months out though. Also, I've never seen any AB/HG J award space on Euro short-haul, so you might have to fly Y to/from PMI.
 

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You're like 4 months out. Finding availability would be a stroke of luck on a lottery scale IMHO.

I reckon this is the sort of thing you want to plan for a year or so out and snaffle the seats as they come out.
I think his only other hope would be closer to the departure dates, check constantly for last minute space to open up but really a long shot on such a complex F itinerary.
 

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I'd also note that I think it may be an illegal RTW itin to go OZ-USA-North Asia-Europe-OZ..(though happy to be corrected by OW routing freaks :) ).
OK, I'll correct you, no direction or backtracking restrictions relating to oneworld awards issued by Qantas using QFF points. In the past I've done SE Asia-USA-SE Asia-Australia-SE Asia-Australia-SE Asia.

For OP, one consideration if getting transcontinental F LAX/SFO/etc-NYC turns out to be elusive may be worth considering YVR-JFK on CX.
 

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OK, I'll correct you, no direction or backtracking restrictions relating to oneworld awards issued by Qantas using QFF points. In the past I've done SE Asia-USA-SE Asia-Australia-SE Asia-Australia-SE Asia.
Thank you. I am edumacated :)
 

timmy-t

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that's true for a RTW ticket, but this is a 35k mileage redemption, so in theory I believe you can fly any way you like....
 

timmy-t

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Something like this could be possible:

MEL-LAX QF F
LAX-SAN AA J (stop 1)
SAN-LAX AA J
LAX-NRT JL F (stop 2)
NRT-HKG CX F
HKG-FRA CX F
FRA-PMI HG J (stop 3)
PMI-HAM AB J (stop 4)
HAM-LHR BA J
LHR-MCT BA F (LHR-DOH via Muscat as per Croupier's suggestion)
MCT-DOH QR reg. F (stop 5)
DOH-MEL QR F.
I don't think CX do F on NRT-HKG, only HND-HKG, so it would tip me over the miles for the surface section NRT-HND
 

timmy-t

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You're like 4 months out. Finding availability would be a stroke of luck on a lottery scale IMHO.

I reckon this is the sort of thing you want to plan for a year or so out and snaffle the seats as they come out.
I had a look this week and actually once you are out of Australia, the availability is pretty good. Only need 1 seat.... the challenges are only on the legs in and out of OZ.
 

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I had a look this week and actually once you are out of Australia, the availability is pretty good. Only need 1 seat.... the challenges are only on the legs in and out of OZ.
Well.. I'm surprised.. but that's great :D
 

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I don't think CX do F on NRT-HKG, only HND-HKG, so it would tip me over the miles for the surface section NRT-HND
Good point - I missed that.

Flying out of HND shouldn't push you over the 35,000 mile mark though. By my calculations, NRT-HKG is 1,842 miles. HND-HKG is 1,805 miles, and the distance between NRT and HND (which would count towards the mileage) is 37 miles. So NRT-HND-HKG is also 1,842 miles - exactly the same amount.
 
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