Japanuary 2024 - the trip that nearly wasn't

So if you go back to post #3, you'll see that my original booking for this trip included a connection for MEL-CBR in J. When QF started stuffing around with the bookings, we ended up being routed via SYD, and the booking was dropped to a Y seat on a Dash-8 for the connecting leg SYD-CBR.

Some of you will also remember that a similar thing happened on our 2023 trip, and that it took me from March 2023-December 2023 to get ORC for the J connection plus the attached DSC. I am still pursuing a fare refund for the difference between J MEL-CBR and Y SYD-CBR for that 2023 trip. So far it has been over 12 months and I cannot seem to get QF to even understand what I am asking for. Arghhhhh.

So the 1515 flight we were allocated is a jet service, and has J class on it. When I returned from my long hot shower, with a heaped plate of food and a glass of bubbles, Mr Seat 0A obviously judged my mood as "up for a challenge". Either that or he has a death wish! So he said - why don't you go to the front desk and see if they can give you J seats on this flight and then you won't have to go through all the palaver of seeking ORC again this year. I couldn't decide whether it was worth it or not (see how beaten down QF has made me!), but in the end I pulled up my original booking and headed over to the front desk to try my luck. I will admit to having a very low expectation of anything other than a brush off.

As I approached the desk, something strange happened. Three service agents were there, and all three looked up and smiled and almost competed for the chance to serve me :eek:.

So one of them got the short straw, and I started explaining what I wanted - to get a free upgrade on the SYD-CBR leg as a replacement for the paid J MEL-CBR leg that had been turned into a Y SYD-CBR by multiple stuffing arounds. I honestly could not believe it when she understood the issue, first time :eek::eek:. She looked up the PNR and said "oh my goodness, you have been stuffed around haven't you!" (see post #3 for details). "Let me see what I can do for you."

Well, she tried this and she tried that and she tried again, but did not seem able to make anything stick. Eventually she looked at me with a twinkle in her eye, passed over 2 boarding passes and said "congratulations Ms Seat 0A 0B, I am delighted to offer you and Mr Seat 0B0A a free upgrade for today's flight." And there it was, 2 J seats for the trip SYD-CBR. She said, "now I can see this booking attracts DSCs, and there is nothing I can do to fix that. If you want the DSCs, you'll have to put in a claim." I thanked her profusely.

So that was a pretty amazingly good end to a fairly rough re-entry to Australia.

I still haven't decided whether I can be bothered to go for the DSCs - I retained WP without them, they don;t count for loyalty bonus, I already have LTG and will never make LTP, so after last year's bad experience sorting ORC and DSC out, I think I'm just going to let it go through to the keeper. What does the brains trust think?

The food on the SYD CBR flight was pretty good - certainly better than the food on either QF25 or QF 60 on this trip. Mr Seat 0A had a pie he said tasted nice, and I just had a chesse and rice cracker snack (having eaten quite nicely in the SYD lounge whilst waiting for the flight).

In the end, it took us over 24 hrs from leaving our hotel in Tokyo to landing at CBR airport, so it was a long journey home. But all's well that ends well.

In my next post, I will write up a few of my thoughts about Japan in 2024.

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edit: To reverse my promotion to Captain - that never actually happened 😆!
 
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Well done @Seat0B
Seat0B v bus driver ✔️
Seat0B v Lounge agents ✔️
I vote you give the DSC a crack, after all you are on a roll, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Welcome home and thank you for another entertaining and enjoyable TR.
 
A Few Thoughts About Japan in Early 2024

COVID

COVID is largely a thing of the past. We were not required to have a temperature taken anywhere, and this time we were not chased down by staff in shops and restaurants to insist that we used hand sanitiser. That said, hand sanitiser was widely available, and was being used by many people.
As a person with potentially compromised immune system, I did feel a bit anxious mingling in crowds. However, Japanese people have a long history of wearing masks when sick, and my observation is that this social obligation has continued in the post-COVID world. That meant that quite a percentage of people were wearing masks on any given day, and no one looks at you like you are a weirdo if you choose to wear a mask. So I just masked up to manage my anxiety. Masks are exceptionally cheap to buy in Japan - around $4-5 for a packet of 20. Back home I am paying $25 for a box of 50. And the variety - pretty colours, patterns, florals.... kawaii desu!

Cost of Living
The Japanese economy seems quite sluggish - there is some unemployment and also under-employment, particularly for younger people. Prices are rising for some staples, but nothing like the inflation levels here. Still, based on media reporting and a few conversations I had in shops, Japanese people are feeling the financial pinch at the moment. I made it a point to try to spend money in small local shops wherever I could, rather than just using the big chains (Starbucks for coffee excepted of course 😆). And with the exchange rate so favourable (and even better now), my money went a long way.

Price Gouging at the Snow
Japan does not do price gouging the way Australian resorts do, and I love this aspect. For example, a bottle of water from a vending machine in the snow was typically ¥150-180 (about $1.50-1.80). Away from the snow, the price was typically ¥120-140 ($1.20-$1.40). I don't mind paying about 30c more for the water to be transported all that way! In Australia, I have paid $6 for a bottle of water at the snow. We ate huge portions of delicious food for prices ranging from ¥1100 to an extravagant ¥2000 ($11-20). This is literally half the price of very average food at Blue Cow Bistro in Perisher, where they charge like wounded bulls. I hate being gouged. Japanese lift tickets are also very very reasonable - the most expensive run to about $80 a day (compared to $180+ at Perisher last year). Plus we were eligible for senior rates from the age of 60+. In Australia, senior rates start at 70. Did I mention that I hate being gouged???

Coffee
It is hard to get good Australian style coffee in Japan - hence my over-reliance on the average quality Starbucks. In fact, Starbucks in Japan is much better than I recall it being here (although maybe I was just desperate for caffeine 😆), probably because of the service culture in Japan where people take the time and effort to present their products and services as well as possible.

If you like Americano - drip filter coffee, you will be in heaven in Japan. This is the standard coffee drink, and readily available everywhere.

If you want what the Japanese call "espresso coffee" (means any of the barista styles we Aussies love), you will have to look harder to find it - but if you look, you will find it. We have found very good coffee all over Japan (yes even off the beaten track) by using Google and going by reviews and comments. For us, it has become part of the fun of the day to find a quirky little coffee place, almost always independent, selling good coffee. A surprising number of these are owned or operated by people who have studied or worked in Australia, and they are always pleased to see us in their shops.

OK, that's all I have time for now. I'll be back with my thoughts on over-tourism soon - and yes, this is a real problem, and getting worse.
 
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A Few Thoughts About Japan in Early 2024

Starbucks for coffee excepted of course 😆

Coffee
It is hard to get good Australian style coffee in Japan - hence my over-reliance on the average quality Starbucks. In fact, Starbucks in Japan is much better than I recall it being here (although maybe I was just desperate for caffeine 😆), probably because of the service culture in Japan where people take the time and effort to present their products and services as well as possible.
Loved the trip report Seat0B and the follow-up with one exception - what they serve at Starbucks anywhere is not coffee, even if it's better than whatever it is that they boil and burn here ;)
 
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Loved the trip report Seat0B and the follow-up with one exception - what they serve at Starbucks anywhere is not coffee, even if it's better than whatever it is that the boil and burn here ;)

Hard agree here...
I basically give up coffee in Japan, not worth the time and effort to search imho...amazingly I survived (so far)!
 
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A Few Thoughts About Japan in Early 2024

COVID

COVID is largely a thing of the past. We were not required to have a temperature taken anywhere, and this time we were not chased down by staff in shops and restaurants to insist that we used hand sanitiser. That said, hand sanitiser was widely available, and was being used by many people.
As a person with potentially compromised immune system, I did feel a bit anxious mingling in crowds. However, Japanese people have a long history of wearing masks when sick, and my observation is that this social obligation has continued in the post-COVID world. That meant that quite a percentage of people were wearing masks on any given day, and no one looks at you like you are a weirdo if you choose to wear a mask. So I just masked up to manage my anxiety. Masks are exceptionally cheap to buy in Japan - around $4-5 for a packet of 20. Back home I am paying $25 for a box of 50. And the variety - pretty colours, patterns, florals.... kawaii desu!

Cost of Living
The Japanese economy seems quite sluggish - there is some unemployment and also under-employment, particularly for younger people. Prices are rising for some staples, but nothing like the inflation levels here. Still, based on media reporting and a few conversations I had in shops, Japanese people are feeling the financial pinch at the moment. I made it a point to try to spend money in small local shops wherever I could, rather than just using the big chains (Starbucks for coffee excepted of course 😆). And with the exchange rate so favourable (and even better now), my money went a long way.

Price Gouging at the Snow
Japan does not do price gouging the way Australian resorts do, and I love this aspect. For example, a bottle of water from a vending machine in the snow was typically ¥150-180 (about $1.50-1.80). Away from the snow, the price was typically ¥120-140 ($1.20-$1.40). I don't mind paying about 30c more for the water to be transported all that way! In Australia, I have paid $6 for a bottle of water at the snow. We ate huge portions of delicious food for prices ranging from ¥1100 to an extravagant ¥2000 ($11-20). This is literally half the price of very average food at Blue Cow Bistro in Perisher, where they charge like wounded bulls. I hate being gouged. Japanese lift tickets are also very very reasonable - the most expensive run to about $80 a day (compared to $180+ at Perisher last year). Plus we were eligible for senior rates from the age of 60+. In Australia, senior rates start at 70. Did I mention that I hate being gouged???

Coffee
It is hard to get good Australian style coffee in Japan - hence my over-reliance on the average quality Starbucks. In fact, Starbucks in Japan is much better than I recall it being here (although maybe I was just desperate for caffeine 😆), probably because of the service culture in Japan where people take the time and effort to present their products and services as well as possible.

If you like Americano - drip filter coffee, you will be in heaven in Japan. This is the standard coffee drink, and readily available everywhere.

If you want what the Japanese call "espresso coffee" (means any of the barista styles we Aussies love), you will have to look harder to find it - but if you look, you will find it. We have found very good coffee all over Japan (yes even off the beaten track) by using Google and going by reviews and comments. For us, it has become part of the fun of the day to find a quirky little coffee place, almost always independent, selling good coffee. A surprising number of these are owned or operated by people who have studied or worked in Australia, and they are always pleased to see us in their shops.

OK, that's all I have time for now. I'll be back with my thoughts on over-tourism soon - and yes, this is a real problem, and getting worse.

iirc the highest price for a bottle of water I saw was something like 250 but in a VERY isolated location.
 

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