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I am fully aware of what the alliance entails. The Trans Tasman flights of either do not operate independently of the rest of the network. They rely, in part, on domestic feeder traffic from destinations without direct flights. Previously, QF only had a domestic feed in New Zealand from it's JQ...

As much as the QFFs may love it, something has to be done about the QF/NZ alliance. Ignoring the obvious business flaws of VA, it's still incredibly uncompetitive behaviour. While they don't cooperate directly Trans-Tasman, having by far the two biggest competitors provide feeds for each others'...

I find it consistently works fine if you refresh once after the circle turns up