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Thanks - thats good to know.

Yes I think this is our only option - would be real nice if VA got a similar points swapping deal with ANA going that they have with Kris

Hello - I am now needing to stop over in the Philippines more and more especially en route to China or USA. I have never contemplated PR as I have VA/QF status. PR flights are cheap, go exactly where i need them to go and as far as I can tell the business class product is pretty good value...