Pets in the Cabin - Coming soon on Virgin Australia

[dairyfloss]

They are building a Palocity Lounge from what I heard from a friend of a friend.

Pawlocity?

I wonder if it will be anything like this one that VA announced on a certain date in April 2015.
Fiction may be about to feed reality here

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[RSVKanga]

Pawlocity?

I wonder if it will be anything like this one that VA announced on a certain date in April 2015.
Fiction may be about to feed reality here

Cheers,
Matt.

I could genuinely see that happening.

 

[p--and--t]

I can just see airport security in the future.

Sorry fifi can't go through the scanner she has congenital bone problem and anxiety attacks. Please ignore the condom filled with cocaine I shoved up her backside.

 

[dairyfloss]

I can just see airport security in the future.

Sorry fifi can't go through the scanner she has congenital bone problem and anxiety attacks. Please ignore the [...]

Helps to explain the anxiety.......

 

[Quickstatus]

They should do an evacuation test with these passengers as a minimum
1) passengers with pyjamas
2) passengers without shoes
3) disabled passengers
4) babies, toddlers, children
5) passengers with BMI > 50
6) pregnant passengers
7) passengers positioned in the toilets when evac is called
8) drunk passengers
9) elderly passengers
10) passengers with a broken leg.

Then test for with luggage and without luggage and test for with pets and without pets.

All the current tests are not a representative test. The passengers are all aware and briefed for an emergency evac. Test an evacuation where the passengers has no prior warning.

The basis for leaving luggage behind is to optimise speed of evacuation. If we are saying a pet will hinder an evacuation, let's see the evidence, I don't there there is any evidence. The big one is: would you push your elderly mother who is in front of you aside if they are a little slower?.

 

[hydrabyss]

They should do an evacuation test with these passengers as a minimum

5) passengers with BMI > 50

50 is a large number

 

[Quickstatus]

50 is a large number

Which is why I put it there

 

[MARTINE]

My brain aches - I’ll wait till Elon teleports me…

 

[jb747]

The big one is: would you push your elderly mother who is in front of you aside if they are a little slower?.

Mine? No.

Yours? Let me think about that.

 

[tdimdad]

They should do an evacuation test with these passengers as a minimum
...
All the current tests are not a representative test. The passengers are all aware and briefed for an emergency evac. Test an evacuation where the passengers has no prior warning.

#7

Perhaps we can get some rough guesses from recent evacuations by analysing the footage from airport CCTV's and other sources which can show the events from start to the last passenger out. Those are your real world scenarios played out. And it'd be quite a miracle if any of them were completed in 90 seconds from the evac order...

Does the 'Air Crash Investigations' program still run on any network? With their style, they could probably produce an episode or two with good real-life info & lessons.

 

[Bagpuss]

Then test for with luggage and without luggage and test for with pets and without pets.

Evacuation rules are that you leave hand luggage behind. This would include pets.
As sad as it is that's the rules and the importance was highlighted in the recent Japan incident where most likely everyone survived because no-one took any luggage off board.
(If they were in the cargo hold, it would be the same outcome.)

The safety demonstration states to leave all luggage behind as long as helping children with oxygen masks after your own.

 

[jase05]

Will the carry-on animals be allowed to roam freely in the VA lounges?

Should be absolutely zero pets allowed in the lounge apart from disability assistance. Animals are not allowed in restaurants in Australia for good reason and I don’t see this law being relaxed

 

[XWu]

Pawlocity?

I wonder if it will be anything like this one that VA announced on a certain date in April 2015.
Fiction may be about to feed reality here

Cheers,
Matt.

Would have thought this was a fake video if you didn’t vouched for it. it was really made by VA, of course, rather foolish spend for fun for a day.

 

[dairyfloss]

Would have thought this was a fake video if you didn’t vouched for it. it was really made by VA, of course, rather foolish spend for fun for a day.

It was posted on April 1st…..

 

[Quickstatus]

Evacuation rules are that you

Not the point of my post.

 

[Quickstatus]

Let me think about that.

Exactly, even in an evacuation, it is not as black and white as we would presume

 

[JohnK]

I'm actually surprised so many ppl are allergic to dogs/cats and they are all here in AFF.

You'd be surprised (or not) how many kids in my daughters class have food allergies and the school have their epi pens on hand in case they are needed.

Are we getting weaker? Maybe not. But we should never put people in a situation where they can have severe allergic reactions. My daughter knows never to share food and wash her hands after eating lunch. I don't care what the US or Europe has done. No pets in cabin unless it's a guide dog.

 

[NM]

Should be absolutely zero pets allowed in the lounge apart from disability assistance. Animals are not allowed in restaurants in Australia for good reason and I don’t see this law being relaxed

100% correct. In an indoor food service venue, the only permitted animals are registered service animals accompanying their registered human handler - proof of eligibility may be required/requested such as wearing their service jacket and photo ID issued by the appropriate state government authority.

There is only a very small list of locations that a certified and registered service animal is not permitted - a commercial food preparation area (i.e. a commercial kitchen) and a hospital or clinical operating theatre. Transport in an ambulance is at the discretion of the operating crew, though may vary by state.

So a carry-on pet should not be permitted in an airline lounge facility. A service animal (registered under an appropriate state government Guide, Hearing and Assistance Animal act) cannot be denied access to an airport lounge or aircraft cabin (or a restaurant, hotel room, any form of public transport etc.).

I know one service dog who travels regularly on both Virgin and Qantas flights (and has also flown Bonza). He is very well known at his "home" airport and the check-in and security staff are always very happy to see him come through. He is also a frequent visitor to airline lounges when his human has lounge access benefits. The paperwork required for such travel is comprehensive, and flight bookings can get complicated. A visit to the service animal relief facility (air-side at major airports) is the regular routine prior to boarding and upon arrive at the destination. He knows the drill.

And there are no concerns about this service dog barking/yapping during a flight. He might snore, but so do many passengers. The only times he ever makes a noise is on command ("speak" = Woof - its a great party trick) or if his human is in need to medical attention (what he is trained to do). So if he was to bark in-flight, its time to ask if there is a doctor on board.

He gets his own window seat allocated and must sit on the floor on a "pee" mat that is provided by the airline at check-in - though its never needed, he is trained to relieve on command and given the opportunity before boarding.

During an emergency evacuation he would likely be calmer than most passengers. He would follow his human, who would scoop him up and they would slide down together just like any parent with a small child would do, even though he weighs a little more than a small child .

 

[XWu]

It was posted on April 1st…..

It was posted on April 1st…..

Yes I know, I see the VA comments when I open the video url on YouTube, but it would have been interesting to see the reactions if readers only lapped up the video in-line of your post rather than on YT website

 

[Ade]

It is a national standard that dogs (in or out of baskets) are not allowed where food is prepared and/or eaten - no if, no buts, except for service dogs.

With the service dogs being allowed everywhere, the national standard is not really about hygiene then.

To this point, please see below ;

The DDA allows qualified Assistance Dogs to accompany their handler into all public spaces. The only exceptions to this may be spaces in which a person’s disability is being addressed by other means, or areas with stringent sterility requirements, for example:

• Specific Clinical Settings
• Surgically sterilised areas
• Industrial food preparation areas (kitchens)
• Quarantined areas

link to page: Public Access Rights - Assistance Dogs Australia