WP J to F upgrade request - advice requested please.

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ninin

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Good afternoon,

My partner and I are both WP and currently booked in J to New York in September.

My partner purchased a Qantas gift voucher for $1000 last Christmas to take advantage of the bonus frequent flyer point offer. Unfortunately, he purchased it in his name only. When it came to paying for our flights, it quickly became apparent that the voucher could not be used to pay for the booking, as the booking was for both of us in 2 names (and the voucher just in his name). Apparently as systems restriction. As a result, we were told to split the bookings into two separate bookings.

Qantas have told us that though the two bookings are linked in the system, they are effectively treated separately. If we request an upgrade to First, it is possible that one of us may get the upgrade. If we were lucky enough to be granted upgrades, we only want it if both of us can have it. If only one of us is granted the upgrade, it is not possible to decline it, as the points would be already deducted. Apparently this process is completely automated so no intervention can happen.

It seems a ridiculous position to have this restriction due to a system constraint in the booking system when using vouchers. I know this really is a third world problem, but it is not everyday that we fly to NY with a paid J fare and the potential opportunity to fly in F at least to LA. On top of this, the flight from Melbourne is often late into LA missing the NY connection. I dread to think what will happen if we are treated as separate bookings by American Airlines when they try to book us on alternative flights. We could end up flying separately.

So, my question is, should we risk requesting the upgrades. At the moment, it looks like there are 5 F seats available (from Melbourne). What would you do?

Thanks and regards ninin
 
Easy fix : if you only get 1 upgrade just switch seats half way. It's not like the other half will be "slumming" it in J after all.
 
Good afternoon,

My partner and I are both WP and currently booked in J to New York in September.

My partner purchased a Qantas gift voucher for $1000 last Christmas to take advantage of the bonus frequent flyer point offer. Unfortunately, he purchased it in his name only. When it came to paying for our flights, it quickly became apparent that the voucher could not be used to pay for the booking, as the booking was for both of us in 2 names (and the voucher just in his name). Apparently as systems restriction. As a result, we were told to split the bookings into two separate bookings.

Qantas have told us that though the two bookings are linked in the system, they are effectively treated separately. If we request an upgrade to First, it is possible that one of us may get the upgrade. If we were lucky enough to be granted upgrades, we only want it if both of us can have it. If only one of us is granted the upgrade, it is not possible to decline it, as the points would be already deducted. Apparently this process is completely automated so no intervention can happen.

It seems a ridiculous position to have this restriction due to a system constraint in the booking system when using vouchers. I know this really is a third world problem, but it is not everyday that we fly to NY with a paid J fare and the potential opportunity to fly in F at least to LA. On top of this, the flight from Melbourne is often late into LA missing the NY connection. I dread to think what will happen if we are treated as separate bookings by American Airlines when they try to book us on alternative flights. We could end up flying separately.

So, my question is, should we risk requesting the upgrades. At the moment, it looks like there are 5 F seats available (from Melbourne). What would you do?

Thanks and regards ninin

I would risk it but only if you are prepared for one of you to get the upgrade.
It's a few weeks until September so seats and equipment can change.

I don't think you'll have an issue being re-booked on the same flight by AA if you miss your connection. AA looks after OWE quite well IME.
 
I'd definitely still do it.

I may well be wrong, but I assumed even if two people are travelling together on the same booking with upgrade requests and only 1 seat is available, you'd be upgraded for the 1 seat. So not sure how this is different given you are both WP?

Same for a missed connection - there may not be two seats on an alternative flight irrespective of your combined booking or otherwise. But as Princess Fiona says AA looks after OWE really well. There are regular flights to NY so I don't think it will be a problem.

Enjoy the trip!
 
I may well be wrong, but I assumed even if two people are travelling together on the same booking with upgrade requests and only 1 seat is available, you'd be upgraded for the 1 seat.

No - on the same booking, it's all or none.
 
Good afternoon,

My partner and I are both WP and currently booked in J to New York in September.

My partner purchased a Qantas gift voucher for $1000 last Christmas to take advantage of the bonus frequent flyer point offer. Unfortunately, he purchased it in his name only. When it came to paying for our flights, it quickly became apparent that the voucher could not be used to pay for the booking, as the booking was for both of us in 2 names (and the voucher just in his name). Apparently as systems restriction. As a result, we were told to split the bookings into two separate bookings.

Qantas have told us that though the two bookings are linked in the system, they are effectively treated separately. If we request an upgrade to First, it is possible that one of us may get the upgrade. If we were lucky enough to be granted upgrades, we only want it if both of us can have it. If only one of us is granted the upgrade, it is not possible to decline it, as the points would be already deducted. Apparently this process is completely automated so no intervention can happen.

It seems a ridiculous position to have this restriction due to a system constraint in the booking system when using vouchers. I know this really is a third world problem, but it is not everyday that we fly to NY with a paid J fare and the potential opportunity to fly in F at least to LA. On top of this, the flight from Melbourne is often late into LA missing the NY connection. I dread to think what will happen if we are treated as separate bookings by American Airlines when they try to book us on alternative flights. We could end up flying separately.

So, my question is, should we risk requesting the upgrades. At the moment, it looks like there are 5 F seats available (from Melbourne). What would you do?

Thanks and regards ninin

I think you'll find it is a 'first world problem', not third world!
 
Hmmm. Time to separate some upcoming bookings!

I have been contacted by QF when only one seat available for two of us on same booking about 2 years ago. SWMBO said no - I believe today she would generously offer to take it and consider she is doing me a favour.
 
Hmmm. Time to separate some upcoming bookings!
As you are WP1 make sure that after you split the bookings that you use your points to request upgrade(s) for your family member(s). If they use their own points the upgrade requests will be at their status levels.
 
I have been contacted by QF when only one seat available for two of us on same booking about 2 years ago. SWMBO said no - I believe today she would generously offer to take it and consider she is doing me a favour.

Makes more sense to me.

As you are WP1 make sure that after you split the bookings that you use your points to request upgrade(s) for your family member(s). If they use their own points the upgrade requests will be at their status levels.

I'll be back to WP - but yep, will still make the requests on her behalf.
 
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As a WP on separate bookings she would get upgraded based on her status level.
 
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