VA call centre: Incredible incompetence (flight status)

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CPMaverick

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My SO is flying on VA1 today (17 Feb). She doesn't have a way to contact me while in transit, and I can't contact her until she arrives in the US, so I was checking on her flight and connection.
I subscribed to VA's flight updates by email. Here are the emails I received:
The Virgin Australia flight you have subscribed to, VA1 has departed from Sydney (SYD). The estimated arrival time in Los Angeles (LAX) is 05:43 on 17 Feb 2016.
The Virgin Australia flight you have subscribed to, VA1 has a new estimated arrival time in Los Angeles (LAX) of 15:15 pm on 17 Feb 2016.
:eek: what? That is a huge delay after departure, although I don't know exactly what '15:15 pm' is...
The Virgin Australia flight you subscribed to, VA 1 on 17 Feb 2016 has been diverted to Brisbane (BNE). We will provide you with further information as soon as possible.
Ok, I check the flight status online and it says 'Diverted' and to phone VA's main number for more details. Arrival time is showing 15:15 pm in LAX
The Virgin Australia flight you have subscribed to, VA1 has a new estimated arrival time in Brisbane (BNE) of 17:10 on 17 Feb 2016.
Now it isn't arriving in Brisbane until 5:10 pm?? Then this
The Virgin Australia flight you have subscribed to, VA1 has a new estimated arrival time in Brisbane (BNE) of 15:50 on 17 Feb 2016.
Since the reservation was made under Delta, I called them to rebook the connecting flights. While on hold with them, I check flightstats and it shows the flight is still ontime. I don't want to rebook if that was the case, I'll just call VA quick and confirm right?

This is where it hurts. The agent told me happily that the reservation has not changed schedule, everything was fine. I told her it showed 'Diverted' in the flight status. She doesn't know what diverted means, she thinks I am talking about a schedule change. After 5 minutes of torturous discussion, she says she will check with her flight team. After a 10 minute hold, she comes back and says 'the flight departed Brisbane already 20 minutes ago yesterday.' After more questions from me she corrects this and says it is on it's way to LAX from Brisbane, but there is no scheduled arrival time.

In the air but no scheduled arrival time? I press her on that and after a 10 minute hold, she returns and says that there is an arrival time of 9:20 pm in LAX. I asked her if she is sure the flight has departed from BNE, she said yes. That makes it a 20 hour flight! I press her on this and she says 'This is just an estimate call back later for updates'

Unsatisfied, I press harder to speak to a supervisor and finally after another hold I get one. She says it is meant to depart at 10:00 pm from Brisbane and arrive at 5:15 pm in LAX. This timing seems odd, I think it is probably 15:15, but at least I got someone halfway competent.

I am shocked at the experience to be honest, an airline can't even tell me where their planes are. If the online status didn't tell me to call for details I could forgive them, but if the website says to call for details I shouldn't find such ignorance.
 
I wouldn't worry about changing connecting flights until they land in LAX. Until the flight takes off from BNE no one knows when it will arrive anyway. Assuming it's on the same ticket they'll be protected and get rebooked when they land.
 
I wouldn't worry about changing connecting flights until they land in LAX. Until the flight takes off from BNE no one knows when it will arrive anyway. Assuming it's on the same ticket they'll be protected and get rebooked when they land.

I've had to rebook in the US many times; it is usually not the best idea to wait until you land. In irregular operations, flights fill up quickly. She has to connect through a hub to get to the final destination and there are not many afternoon options that work. She has no status and is on an award ticket so would be lowest priority for rebooking.

But yes, it doesn't make sense to rebook until you at least have a scheduled arrival time and the plane is in-flight. Which was why the experience with the call center was so excruciating, they couldn't tell me if it was even in the air or not.
 
Seven News suggests departure from BNE at 2200, but so far I cannot confirm it from any trustworthy source...
 
That is pretty useless.

You can always try sites like flightradar24 and flightaware for semi accurate info.
 
I would suggest that because it was a bomb threat information for people calling up was a little thin.

Just an idea...
 
Was this the AU or the Fillo call centre? The latter isn't known for competence
 
I would suggest that because it was a bomb threat information for people calling up was a little thin.

Just an idea...

Makes sense, its likely that apart from the automated information feeding the flight status system, no information would have been made available to the call center due to the threat.
 
Was this the AU or the Fillo call centre? The latter isn't known for competence

Definitely off shore.

While the simple fact that this was an unusual situation makes it seem more acceptable that I couldn't get clear information, there really still is no excuse for this type of staffing. It was beyond ridiculous, I wish I had recorded it.
 
"Incredible" means hard to believe, so that doesn't work for me vis-a-vis VA call centers...

But while the circumstances and timing were unfortunate for you personally, this should not be made out to be a big deal.
 
It was incredible to me. Next time it won't be! Actually I doubt I will call again, don't see the point, unless other hours will get me someone that can string together a coherent sentence
 
It was incredible to me. Next time it won't be! Actually I doubt I will call again, don't see the point, unless other hours will get me someone that can string together a coherent sentence

Like with any call centre if you are not getting anywhere either talk o the supervisor or hang up and call again.
There are always varying degrees in competence when it comes to call centre staff.
 
I think the OP's expectations might exceed the capacity of that call centre, add in the alleged bomb threat and it's a SNAFU :p
I would agree with this - unfolding operational events are not always something the call centres no about. And this is not a Virgin only issue.
 
I would agree with this - unfolding operational events are not always something the call centres no about. And this is not a Virgin only issue.

Very true.

Had a similar call with JQ a few years ago when a family member was on a flight that missed the Sydney curfew and was diverting. I watched it go around from the carpark at Mascot and just wanted to know where it was going.

Conversation was funny... To say the least. Ranged from "running late" to "landing at 10:50" (it was 11:30 by this stage) etc etc.

The call centre probably doesn't have immediate access to information. Add to that the fact that the staff are often in very different time zones with very little understanding of the local geography (and often poor training, general incompetence and inability to work outside of a script) and it can end up being a frustrating experience
 
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I'd love to jump on this and call VA all the names under the sun, but given the situation I'd suggest your anger is far better directed at the criminal who made the threat. I doubt the VA call centre could possibly have known accurate details as there would have been many, many variables, least of all the fact they were likely under an information suppression order for at least a little while.

I haven't seen any news, so I do hope the resolution was positive.
 
It was incredible to me. Next time it won't be! Actually I doubt I will call again, don't see the point, unless other hours will get me someone that can string together a coherent sentence
Just post your question on AFF in the "your Questions" forum. I have little doubt you'd be getting accuate information soon enough. ;)
 
I'd love to jump on this and call VA all the names under the sun, but given the situation I'd suggest your anger is far better directed at the criminal who made the threat. I doubt the VA call centre could possibly have known accurate details as there would have been many, many variables, least of all the fact they were likely under an information suppression order for at least a little while.

I haven't seen any news, so I do hope the resolution was positive.

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Well far from what I was thinking when I first read this thread, I think VA have done a very good job under very trying circumstances. They implemented a predefined emergency strategy and all pax and crew are safe, although I'm quite sure it would have been an extremely anxious time for them all.

Let's just hope they find the cough that made the hoax call and give him/her life at the end of a short rope (said only semi in jest). That kind of terror (which it is, even although it was a hoax) should be punished harshly and swiftly.
 
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