The next step in building the wall around the US of Trump

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The Trump administration is considering “extreme vetting” in which social media passwords and mobile phone contacts must be handed over when entering the US.:shock:
Travellers from many US allies, such as the UK, Ireland, Germany and France, may soon undergo “extreme vetting” when arriving in the US.
Visitors could be forced to reveal social media usernames and passwords, as well as financial data to US Customs and Border Protection officers. If the traveller refuses to hand over the information, they will likely be refused entry into the country.
Mobile phone contacts may also be analysed as well as any electronic or digital devices carried by the passenger. A senior department of homeland security official was quoted as saying that the aim is to “figure out who you are communicating with.”
Detailed ideological questions may be asked by border officials – for example, ‘what do you think of ISIS?’
The new policy is likely to affect the 38 countries that participate in the visa waiver program – a program that allows citizens of specific countries to travel to the US for tourism, business, or while in transit for up to 90 days without having to obtain a visa.
John Kelly, US Homeland Security Secretary, previously shared the idea of asking for passwords in February 2017. Speaking to the congressional Homeland Security Committee, he said: “We want to say for instance, ‘What sites do you visit? And give us your passwords,’ so that we can see what they do on the internet. If they don’t want to give us that information then they don’t come.”
The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a US nonprofit, campaigning for digital civil rights, said that although border agents cannot deny a US citizen admission to their own country, a foreign visitor has little to no legal protection and may simply be denied entry to the US.
 
I have little problem with any of that, except that it will increase processing/immigration time.

I'll soon loose my visa waiver entitlement anyway due to one of Barak Obama's middle-east country lists. :rolleyes:
 
I'll soon loose my visa waiver entitlement anyway due to one of Barak Obama's middle-east country lists. :rolleyes:
Whilst I don't agree with the rules, I guess you made the decision to visit Iran knowing the implication about future visits to the US under the VWP. I too would love to visit Iran but won't as I don't want to lose my ability to travel to the US under the VWP....
 
I have issues handing over such information. I'm not some big privacy advocate but where does one draw the line? Do we need to submit naked photos next? Who we voted for at the last election?

*awaits the standard line* - if you have nothing to hide, why does it bother you?

Answer: Everyone has things that are not for public consumption. Doesn't mean you're 'hiding' something, just that you value it remaining personal.
 
I don't have a problem with it all but I can't remember my password myself... More than happy for them to have a read of my FB and any and all of my other social media stuff
 
Visitors could be forced to reveal social media usernames and passwords, as well as financial data to US Customs and Border Protection officers. If the traveller refuses to hand over the information, they will likely be refused entry into the country.
Seriously? What's social media?

John Kelly, US Homeland Security Secretary, previously shared the idea of asking for passwords in February 2017. Speaking to the congressional Homeland Security Committee, he said: “We want to say for instance, ‘What sites do you visit? And give us your passwords,’ so that we can see what they do on the internet. If they don’t want to give us that information then they don’t come.”
What's the internet?

Givem nuttin'.
 
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If I wasn't already hesitant to go the LOTFAP before I certainly am now. There is no way will I consent to that level of invasion of privacy (while at the same time acknowledging that this is probably being read by a machine and analysed as I type :eek:).

For a country so set on 'muh freedom' they certainly seem to be throwing it away with remarkable distain.

I also refuse to accept the 'if you've nothing to hide' argument. I've witnessed abuses of the state on its citizens first hand, this is just another weapon in that coughnal and I refuse to accept it.
 
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