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Babesofy

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I might need to waitlist F but have never done it before.

Are these correct?

- Waitlist F
- Book confirmed J
- if it clears, cancel J paying $75 fee
- Confirm F
I am planning to do something similar but wanted to know how long does it take for the miles to get credited back to the account on a cancelled redemption tic?

Reason I ask is I only have enough points to redeem one set of flights so I am relying on the points being returned to my account fairly quickly to confirm my waitlisted flights.

TIA
 

lonewolf

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hmm, So I am confused again :).

So I can have first class waitlisted and then book / confirm business class and if later on the first class becomes available, i can book that and cancel my business class? And I pay a small fee for doing so? Is that the $25 fee mentioned earlier? or is it more?
 

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lonewolf 2 ways to do it:

1. Book and pay J then call KF and request Agent to add F or R waitlists to your confirmed flt - if clear you can upgrade online or call KF to do so
2. Book and pay J then create separate W/L booking for F/R - then if F/R clears call KF and explain and Agent can sub F/R for J - either way you can get over line

FTR: I have just done 2. for flts 2 pax Dec 6 SIN-MEL
 

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lonewolf 2 ways to do it:

1. Book and pay J then call KF and request Agent to add F or R waitlists to your confirmed flt - if clear you can upgrade online or call KF to do so
2. Book and pay J then create separate W/L booking for F/R - then if F/R clears call KF and explain and Agent can sub F/R for J - either way you can get over line

FTR: I have just done 2. for flts 2 pax Dec 6 SIN-MEL
So what do i lose or have to pay extra with those methods as in is there a cancellation fee / loss or a upgrade / change of flight fee?
 

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If you use either of those methods there is no cancellation fee - you will have to pay extra charges to upgrade J to F/R
 

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I am planning to do something similar but wanted to know how long does it take for the miles to get credited back to the account on a cancelled redemption tic?

Reason I ask is I only have enough points to redeem one set of flights so I am relying on the points being returned to my account fairly quickly to confirm my waitlisted flights.

TIA
From what I read you should call to do it. They can issue the ticket and just deduct additional miles.
 

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I was recently advised that WL will not clear until 3 weeks before the flight. I questioned that WL wouldn’t clear say, 4 months < the flight? She seemed sure of her statement, but I still wondered if she was misinterpreting that they will cancel a WL if not cleared three weeks before the flight. Any other recent experiences?
 

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Oh really? So I can book J and waitlist for F/R and if it clears then i just have to call up and get it upgraded for the cost of the extra miles but no fees for changing / cancelling previous booking. That sounds quite good. Is it a simple call or can it take days of repeat calls to achieve as in how much time do i need before i fly out to do the upgrade if it becomes available.
 

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Never flown business or first class before (besides an upgrade to business when i was a child) how does it work with Singapore airlines if i am flying lets say business to bangkok from sydney via Singapore? Do I get to use the lounges in both sydney and singapore? Also If I wanted to fly first class, then i cant fly to bangkok, only to singapore as there are no first class seats to bangkok, so i could use more points to make separate bookings for first to singapore then business to bangkok. How would the lounges work with that? I presume there are different lounges for first and business
 

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Oh really? So I can book J and waitlist for F/R and if it clears then i just have to call up and get it upgraded for the cost of the extra miles but no fees for changing / cancelling previous booking. That sounds quite good. Is it a simple call or can it take days of repeat calls to achieve as in how much time do i need before i fly out to do the upgrade if it becomes available.
Should just be a single call. With a change fee of $25 USD.

The fees are here

Never flown business or first class before (besides an upgrade to business when i was a child) how does it work with Singapore airlines if i am flying lets say business to bangkok from sydney via Singapore? Do I get to use the lounges in both sydney and singapore? Also If I wanted to fly first class, then i cant fly to bangkok, only to singapore as there are no first class seats to bangkok, so i could use more points to make separate bookings for first to singapore then business to bangkok. How would the lounges work with that? I presume there are different lounges for first and business
If you fly SYD-SIN in F you would have access to the F lounge in SYD as well as the F Lounge and TPR on arrival in SIN based on arriving in F.

If you are in Business for both flights then you would have access to the business lounges in SYD and SIN.
 

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Never flown business or first class before (besides an upgrade to business when i was a child) how does it work with Singapore airlines if i am flying lets say business to bangkok from sydney via Singapore? Do I get to use the lounges in both sydney and singapore? Also If I wanted to fly first class, then i cant fly to bangkok, only to singapore as there are no first class seats to bangkok, so i could use more points to make separate bookings for first to singapore then business to bangkok. How would the lounges work with that? I presume there are different lounges for first and business
You'd purchase a mixed class award, via the call centre, that included F AU-SIN followed by J SIN-BKK. This will work out cheaper than the sector fares being added together.

One thing I'm not sure on - whether this has changed or not - is that you need to have the required number of points in your account to upgrade. So if you want to waitlist multiple flights - do that first before booking and 'paying' for the flight you can get confirmed.
 

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I have tonnes of points at the moment so the waitlist isnt an issue. As I have never used anypoints besides a couple of domestic flights ..i know big mistake, have lost a lot of value in devluation but i didnt realise that was happening till the last couple of years. Have been earning these points for several years and hardly used them :(

What is TPR? Also I know Y is economy, Y+ is premium economy?, J is Business, F is first class, what is R?
 

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Suites are only on the A380. The larger aircraft allows for a bigger F cabin.

I would say they are a better experience but First is still great. Service/food will be the same.

There is a case however for more personal service in First on the 777 where there is a maximum of 4 passengers rather than a full cabin in Suites of up to 12.
 

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Suites are only on the A380. The larger aircraft allows for a bigger F cabin.

I would say they are a better experience but First is still great. Service/food will be the same.

There is a case however for more personal service in First on the 777 where there is a maximum of 4 passengers rather than a full cabin in Suites of up to 12.
Really, there are only 4 first class passengers max on the 777, didnt realise they had cabins that small . That would be more personal.

How often do they usually devalue points? I noticed there was a slew of them recently with Amex and all the airlines as well, I am just wondering if i should try to use my points asap.
 

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How often do they usually devalue points? I noticed there was a slew of them recently with Amex and all the airlines as well, I am just wondering if i should try to use my points asap.
Not all that often.

It's true that there's a current round of devalutions.... with credit card earn this has been because of the changes (in Australia) of the interchange fees or whatever being capped. And for airlines it's been a case of moving to dynamic pricing. QF's devaluation was, well, just an outright devaluation.

But once they happen you'll be fine for a few years. SQ's devaluation was not so long ago, I wouldn't be expecting another for at least a few years.

If one of your FFP's hasn't been through this change you could want to consider using up points, but you'll usually get wind of an impending change and be able to make a last minute award or two.
 

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Not all that often.

It's true that there's a current round of devalutions.... with credit card earn this has been because of the changes (in Australia) of the interchange fees or whatever being capped. And for airlines it's been a case of moving to dynamic pricing. QF's devaluation was, well, just an outright devaluation.

But once they happen you'll be fine for a few years. SQ's devaluation was not so long ago, I wouldn't be expecting another for at least a few years.

If one of your FFP's hasn't been through this change you could want to consider using up points, but you'll usually get wind of an impending change and be able to make a last minute award or two.
Thanks for that, reason why i asked is because i have a lot of SQ points due to the credit card devaluations and hence moving all my points over to SQ. So now i have a tonne in there, I need to use it up before it expires which i think i should be able to but i also have credit on my AMEX card to use up and a Qantas lounge so was tossing up between booking a return flight through Amex to use my credit and lounge pass or i can pay a premium to fly one way with qantas to use my amex credit and then on the return leg use SQ points, but this means i end up paying a premium to fly Qantas one way as opposed to the return price.
 

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Thanks for that, reason why i asked is because i have a lot of SQ points due to the credit card devaluations and hence moving all my points over to SQ. So now i have a tonne in there, I need to use it up before it expires which i think i should be able to but i also have credit on my AMEX card to use up and a Qantas lounge so was tossing up between booking a return flight through Amex to use my credit and lounge pass or i can pay a premium to fly one way with qantas to use my amex credit and then on the return leg use SQ points, but this means i end up paying a premium to fly Qantas one way as opposed to the return price.
Even if your points are about to expire you can still book a ticket for up to a year in advance - although if you cancel the points will automatically expire.
 

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