QF metal on BA codeshare

[Oubline]

Hello,

My apologies if this has been asked before.

I am flying MEL-SIN on QF35, which I booked through the British Airways site as BA7309. I have two booking references, one which lists the flight under the QF number and the other under the BA.

I am a QP member with no status. Do you think I will still have access to the lounge - the wording on the website says my next flight must be 'with Qantas'.

Also, would the points be earned at the rate for a QF flight or a BA one, which is now unfortunately much lower?

Many thanks for your help.

 

[Kangol]

From here:
Airport Lounges at Melbourne International Airport | Qantas

Qantas Club Member

Next onward flight that day must be a Qantas, Emirates, or Jetstar Airlines+ flight number.

One guest allowed and must be travelling with the member on the same flight.

No lounge access in MEL unfortunately. You may however have a lenient or *unknowledgable* lounge attendant who may let you in. Don't expect them to break the rules for you.

Check the meetings/social events thread and if there is someone travelling on the day, they may be able to guest you.

Regarding points, as you are on a BA flight number, you will earn at the "BA rate" - see here:
Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

British Airways (BA) For travel from 31 March 2013:

GKLMNOQSV*	Discount Economy	0.25	-
BHY	Full Economy	1	-
TEW	World Traveller Plus	1	10%
CDIRJ	Business	1	25%
AF	First	1	50%

The number of points earned depends on your booking class, as you can see most economy fare buckets will earn at 25% of the base miles flown.

 

[Oubline]

From here:
Airport Lounges at Melbourne International Airport | Qantas


No lounge access in MEL unfortunately. You may however have a lenient or *unknowledgable* lounge attendant who may let you in. Don't expect them to break the rules for you.

Check the meetings/social events thread and if there is someone travelling on the day, they may be able to guest you.

Regarding points, as you are on a BA flight number, you will earn at the "BA rate" - see here:
Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

British Airways (BA) For travel from 31 March 2013:

GKLMNOQSV*	Discount Economy	0.25	-
BHY	Full Economy	1	-
TEW	World Traveller Plus	1	10%
CDIRJ	Business	1	25%
AF	First	1	50%

The number of points earned depends on your booking class, as you can see most economy fare buckets will earn at 25% of the base miles flown.

Thank you for your answer. That is disappointing, especially since I booked before the recent changes were announced - it feels like they've taken all the benefits of booking with QF/BA away since I booked!

I wonder whether checking in using the QF booking reference (which displays the flight as QF35 on the website) would allow me to get a boarding pass saying QF35 that I could show to the lounge... probably wishful thinking!

 

[AIRwin]

Thank you for your answer. That is disappointing, especially since I booked before the recent changes were announced - it feels like they've taken all the benefits of booking with QF/BA away since I booked!

I wonder whether checking in using the QF booking reference (which displays the flight as QF35 on the website) would allow me to get a boarding pass saying QF35 that I could show to the lounge... probably wishful thinking!

Do try that and let us know! I'm thinking of booking the return flight BA7310 from SIN to MEL on the BA site which is turning out to be much cheaper than booking it directly with QF (just need the status credits)... When are you flying?

 

[mannej]

The last time I was on codeshare on QF metal, the boarding pass had QF574 sold as JQ6574 on it, so I don't think you can get away from the codeshare notation on your BP

 

[Princess Fiona]

As you are flying on QF you will check in at the QF check in area and will most likely get a BP saying QF 35. No recent personal experience of this but do have recent experience of the reverse ie. QF booked on BA metal, check in at BA and BA issued BP with BA flight number.
I think you have a very good chance of lounge access although as pointed out above its not strictly speaking as per the rules.

 

[Oubline]

Do try that and let us know! I'm thinking of booking the return flight BA7310 from SIN to MEL on the BA site which is turning out to be much cheaper than booking it directly with QF (just need the status credits)... When are you flying?

Flying next week! I will advise. I suspect it can't be that easy though :-
)

 

[AIRwin]

Flying next week! I will advise. I suspect it can't be that easy though :-
)

Thanks! What a coincidence I'm flying from MEL to SIN next week as well (but part of a complicated routing booked separately) which is why I've been looking at options for my return flight...

 

[Oubline]

Thank you PF! It's good to hear from your (similar) experience.

 

[Kangol]

I wonder whether checking in using the QF booking reference (which displays the flight as QF35 on the website) would allow me to get a boarding pass saying QF35 that I could show to the lounge... probably wishful thinking!

I could be wrong, but I think the QF flight number is there as a reference only - to indicate to the system what metal and route you are on.
To get a boarding pass with a different flight number would probably involve getting a ticket re-issued, which may be a problem if the ticketing carrier does not sell tickets with the flight number that you want (ie if BA does not sell that flight with a QF35 flight number, then you probably wouldn't be able to get them to change it anyway as that is something they don't offer in the first place).

Happy to be corrected though - the only extrapolation I'm making is from a [similar] experience: I enquired about changing a (QF ticketed) QF93 flight to the AA codeshare because I wanted to credit to AA. Was told by QF that it would not be possible as they do not sell the AA codeshare on that route (my understanding is that they would not sell another carrier's marketed flight on their own metal, makes sense).

Oneworld tickets (eg RTW) are a different story...

 

[markis10]

I could be wrong, but I think the QF flight number is there as a reference only - to indicate to the system what metal and route you are on.
To get a boarding pass with a different flight number would probably involve getting a ticket re-issued, which may be a problem if the ticketing carrier does not sell tickets with the flight number that you want (ie if BA does not sell that flight with a QF35 flight number, then you probably wouldn't be able to get them to change it anyway as that is something they don't offer in the first place).

Happy to be corrected though - the only extrapolation I'm making is from a [similar] experience: I enquired about changing a (QF ticketed) QF93 flight to the AA codeshare because I wanted to credit to AA. Was told by QF that it would not be possible as they do not sell the AA codeshare on that route (my understanding is that they would not sell another carrier's marketed flight on their own metal, makes sense).

Oneworld tickets (eg RTW) are a different story...

You won't be able to checkin using the QF PNR, you will get a QF flight number on the BP, with an annotation sold as BAxx_X

http://i.imgur.com/pXaVp.jpg

 

[here2go]

OW probably different, but flying MI DRW-SIN on SQ flight # on Amadeus GDS had MI on our boarding passes. There is always hope

 

[Oubline]

You won't be able to checkin using the QF PNR, you will get a QF flight number on the BP, with an annotation sold as BAxx_X

http://i.imgur.com/pXaVp.jpg

Thanks Markis10 for the image! So many useful responses.

 

[Kangol]

You won't be able to checkin using the QF PNR, you will get a QF flight number on the BP, with an annotation sold as BAxx_X

http://i.imgur.com/pXaVp.jpg

Ah, interesting, thanks - however it is the opposite to the OP (just like Princess Fiona). BA metal with QF codeshare.
How did you get two BPs? Do you know if you were able to book the BA flight number at the time when ticketed with QF?

FWIW on the BA website, you can't book the QF flight no (on QF metal) from MEL-SIN...

OP please report back when you've done the flight re your experiences - interested to know what happens.

 

[markis10]

Ah, interesting, thanks - however it is the opposite to the OP (just like Princess Fiona). BA metal with QF codeshare.
How did you get two BPs? Do you know if you were able to book the BA flight number at the time when ticketed with QF?

FWIW on the BA website, you can't book the QF flight no (on QF metal) from MEL-SIN...

OP please report back when you've done the flight re your experiences - interested to know what happens.

Well aware of the fact it's BA codeshare on QF metal, QF display their codeshare partners on the BP the same way, operating flight number with "sold as" in the comments. The OP probably booked before the codeshare agreement expired, which is why it cannot be booked now.

 

[Oubline]

Just to let you know what happened - I received a boarding pass with a "sold as BA xx_x" annotation. However the lounge staff had no issues with it at all.