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A MALE Qantas flight attendant was sacked after stealing a pair of pink ladies' ugg boots from an upmarket hotel in California.



In a bizarre case, David Tregear told the national industrial court in Sydney he was so sleep deprived he didn't realise what he was doing when he stole the boots from the lobby of an Orange County hotel in March.

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[anat0l]

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Mr Tregear, who served more than 20 years with the airline, said his life had been ruined.

If he's served more than 20 years for the airline, then he's obviously not the "young and foolish" that so many of society love to blame for all social woes. Obviously, he's not older and wiser either.

I'll leave the critical remarks out of this thread, although I could easily launch into a tirade. All I could say is, I guess, he's lucky it wasn't a country like one of the Muslim law countries or Mexico and such. He might just get the sack and be one hand less.

In any case, slow news day...

 

[Sprucegoose]

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Easy to do, forget to pay

We had a GG's wife who did the same thing, except under the guise of a mental illness.

No mercy from QF, cynically it saves a payout later.

A supportive employer?

 

[steven s]

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Easy to do, forget to pay

We had a GG's wife who did the same thing, except under the guise of a mental illness.

No mercy from QF, cynically it saves a payout later.

A supportive employer?

I do not think Qantas wants someone representing their company that is not going to return items that are not theirs. Imagine the amount of lost property left on a plane and then have flight attendants go and keep it all! Not the ideal person working for you!!!

 

[anat0l]

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We had a GG's wife who did the same thing, except under the guise of a mental illness.

I thought you should be wise enough by now to know that politicians in this country (and their families) can get away with almost any sort of crime.

 

[Worldtraveller8888]

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Easy to do, forget to pay

I don't think he forgot to pay -sounds like it was in the lobby of the crew hotel. Opportunistic theft.

Personally, I love the excuse - "the jetlag made me do it".

 

[Sprucegoose]

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I thought you should be wise enough by now to know that politicians in this country (and their families) can get away with almost any sort of crime.

Possibly, but certainly wise enough to understand she paid a very high price for her actions, more so than a court would have imposed.

I won't use the word 'crime' as there were no charges laid and subsequent conviction.

 

[simongr]

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So someone wasn't charged or convicted and they lost their job after 20 years? Something is not right with that.

Do they sack pilots who get speeding tickets?

 

[NM]

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So someone wasn't charged or convicted and they lost their job after 20 years? Something is not right with that.

Do they sack pilots who get speeding tickets?

The "were no charges laid and subsequent conviction" comment in a previous post was nothing to do with the Qantas employee in the reported story. It was referring to a totally different person and situation.

Seems to me that the Qantas employee involved in the reported incident admitted guilt by sending them back when he realised he was in trouble (as reported). I can only expect that means there was video evidence of him taking the items.

 

[simongr]

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Apologies for that. Having now read the article itself - there is no indication of criminal charges.

I still don't see how QF were within their rights to sack someone for acts undertaken outside of work hours.

 

[steven s]

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I still don't see how QF were within their rights to sack someone for acts undertaken outside of work hours.

He was staying at the Hotel funded by Qantas in LA, and I think that Qantas would have been contacted once the incident was uncovered so that they could locate the staff member.

 

[Hvr]

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Apologies for that. Having now read the article itself - there is no indication of criminal charges.

I still don't see how QF were within their rights to sack someone for acts undertaken outside of work hours.

Actually it is very common for employees to be sacked for acts committed outside of work hours.

As a public servant I am required to abide by the APS Code of Conduct there are some things I cannot do at work, e.g. view coughography on my computer, that I can do at home.

There are some things I can never do, e.g. misuse the government credit card issued to me. If i do then I may be charged with a criminal offence and/or investigated for breaching the APS Code of Conduct (CoC).

A criminal offence is just that and requires proof to the standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt' a breach of the APS CoC is a civil offence and only requires proof to the 'balance of probabilities' .

It is very common for public servants to be dealt with under both courses of action or sometimes the latter if the criminal offence is deemed by the DPP as not in the public interest to prosecute.

All organisations have their own CoC and it is possible that in this case (of which I have no knowledge at all) that the employee is alleged to have breached the QF CoC and was dealt with under its provisions.

Therefore, there is no need for a criminal prosecution for dismissal to occur.

 

[anat0l]

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Bringing the company into disrepute or damaging the good name of the company is also grounds for dismissal. It doesn't even require you to be guilty of anything, although it would be most unfair if you were wrongfully accused and then found innocent, only to lose your job because of the media ruckus. But that doesn't apply in this case.

Remember there were two legal secretaries (I think they were secretaries) in Sydney who bi*ched back and forth about a small silly thing like who ate whose lunch by mistake? And then the email got out of hand and circulated all around Sydney? And then they got dismissed? Case in point.

 

[Sprucegoose]

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Bringing the company into disrepute or damaging the good name of the company is also grounds for dismissal. It doesn't even require you to be guilty of anything, although it would be most unfair if you were wrongfully accused and then found innocent, only to lose your job because of the media ruckus. But that doesn't apply in this case.

Remember there were two legal secretaries (I think they were secretaries) in Sydney who bi*ched back and forth about a small silly thing like who ate whose lunch by mistake? And then the email got out of hand and circulated all around Sydney? And then they got dismissed? Case in point.

Yes well said but let's temper this with a real world maxim - they will only get rid of you if they really want to!!