Qantas a330 downgrades

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Is there any correlation between today's downgauging and 2 hour delay of qf777 and the upgauging of sin, akl to a330 and a330 freight flight to NZ?

No explanation or apology from QF at any point.
 
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Is there any correlation between today's downgauging and 2 hour delay of qf777 and the upgauging of sin, akl to a330 and a330 freight flight to NZ?

No explanation or apology from QF at any point.

It's air travel, **** happens.
Aircraft frequently get moved to where they are more effective. What's a DG to one is an UG to someone else.
 
Change of aircraft i have no issue with. No explanation for the delay is poor customer service.
 
Were you listening for one? I've never had a (significant) delay on QF that wasn't given some sort of explanation.
 
I would be very angry, and have been so, when my aim for a 330 gets pinged and I get a 737.
Not only when I was aiming to get the 330 J seat a few months back.
Got changed 3 different times, and rang 3 different times to get that 330 dom J seat to see what its like.
But my 330 one time from BNE - SYD got pinged to a 737, was in Y so had to slum it for that flight.
For reason of no announcement, and why you got slummed to a 737, I don't know.
Their probable excuse would be "technical/operational/security reasons", but then who knows, only QF does.
Also our former liaison person with QF no longer works there, she would probably have told us, if she was still there... and the relationship with the current QF AFF rep/s now seems not close anymore.
Edit: Flight aware shows some days that QF777 plane is provided for by a 737-800.
 
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Pooch you really need to get over this IMHO.

QF dynamically allocates capacity on the key trunk routes often. Nothing is given. Why put a 330 on a flight when it and it's return sector only have 120 booked? It makes no sense whatsoever, specially if you have another service overbooked that could use that 330. That's called smart management.

It's also very good to have the flexibility on a situation where an aircraft goes US for whatever reason and you CAN sub in another aircraft to operate a service hopefully as near to schedule as possible. I think most pax would rather get there on time than wait for a certain plane; most passengers don't even know or care about what they're on. I've heard people get on a 737 and call it a jumbo (!)

Frankly in my view if one wants a specific product or aircraft time you need to book sectors that will only have that type on them (eg: MEL-SIN will never have a 737 operated it, because it can't :) ).

Remember QF i(or any airline) is under no obligation to provide the scheduled aircraft, requested seat aloocation or anything. You're buying transport from A to B on their service.

Don't get me wrong, I do understand it's frustrating when you've booked something and you expect a nice suite with legroom and wind up in the cramped 737 J. I get it, but if you got what you paid for (a J seat from A to B) then QF has met its obligation.

I will say this though recently I got off OOL-MEL (a 73H) which I noticed turned to QF777 to PER (this was a Sunday). I thought that was unusual, and I did absolutely feel for the pax on that long sector - I call that much more of a downgrade than a 1h MEL-SYD sector.

When I fly on the trunk routes I absolutely never expect a specific flight to be as advertised equipment wise until I'm at the gate. Things happen.

I agree the bigger issue is a lack of communication regarding delays. I do think it's odd for no explanation - certainly I've usually had one on board. Just last week had the weirdest delay I've heard of in awhile - we were delayed because the FO's seat came off its tracks and they had to pull it out and repair that and then put it back in. It lead to much speculation as to what shenanigans could have possibly lead to that situation!!! :D (well speculation by me anyway!)
 
Is there any correlation between today's downgauging and 2 hour delay of qf777 and the upgauging of sin, akl to a330 and a330 freight flight to NZ?

No explanation or apology from QF at any point.

The SIN and AKL upgague has happened for a little while due to the Christmas holiday period and the fright service operates overnight with the a/c back to regular pax service during the day.

Simple thing is if one 330 has gone tech it would have a knock on effect to other flights as they are utilised more during this busy period.
 
In the past 2 days I have been advised of both flights to and from PER, QF one way and VA the other have BOTH been downgraded.
Business in a 737 is just no comparison to business in the A330.
 
In the past 2 days I have been advised of both flights to and from PER, QF one way and VA the other have BOTH been downgraded.
Business in a 737 is just no comparison to business in the A330.

What was the route? Ex-Brisbane?
 
This seems more relevant now that QF are advertising aircraft type and seat pitch in the mobile and app booking engine when they display flight results.
 
I had a flight booked BNE-PER on A330 with Flex fare and points upgrade.
When checking in via Qantas app I noticed a seat change and realised this was due a change to a 737.
I re-booked with VA on an A330 same day using platinum upgrade.

With upgrade attached I couldn't cancel online, so called QF.
I lost the upgrade points and given the option of losing $99 with refund of balance or keep value as credit.
As it was done via call centre I now have to wear the booking fees etc for calling.

Annoying to be penalised for something they chose to do and now I am unsure where to take it from here.....send them feedback etc?

JASON
 
Annoying to be penalised for something they chose to do and now I am unsure where to take it from here.....send them feedback etc?

JASON

You're not paying for an aircraft type, you are paying to get to a destination. You can send them feedback, but honestly they wouldn't care.
 
You're not paying for an aircraft type, you are paying to get to a destination. You can send them feedback, but honestly they wouldn't care.

I disagree - we are paying for a service and getting to a destination is an element of that service. Otherwise it wouldn't be a stretch to say it's perfectly fine for an airline to substitute a bus. Also notwithstanding that most full-service airlines (i.e. not LCCs, and there's that word service again) advertise re their service. Yes, it's an airlines prerogative to maximise profits, but they should still be held accountable to provide the service they advertise.
 
I disagree - we are paying for a service and getting to a destination is an element of that service. Otherwise it wouldn't be a stretch to say it's perfectly fine for an airline to substitute a bus. Also notwithstanding that most full-service airlines (i.e. not LCCs, and there's that word service again) advertise re their service. Yes, it's an airlines prerogative to maximise profits, but they should still be held accountable to provide the service they advertise.
I think you'll find the airline will provide a bus when it proves to be there most efficient way to get pax to there destination.
 
I disagree - we are paying for a service and getting to a destination is an element of that service. Otherwise it wouldn't be a stretch to say it's perfectly fine for an airline to substitute a bus.

Which has happened before, especially on regional flights. Busses to MQL from MEL, busses from DPO to LST etc etc
 
Which has happened before, especially on regional flights. Busses to MQL from MEL, busses from DPO to LST etc etc

Oh, I certainly don't have a problem with a bus if the plane can't fly (e.g. ash clouds) or there isn't a plane!! :) I'd rather get to my destination than hang around in an airport or some squalid hotel the airline puts you in!
 
I disagree - we are paying for a service and getting to a destination is an element of that service. Otherwise it wouldn't be a stretch to say it's perfectly fine for an airline to substitute a bus. Also notwithstanding that most full-service airlines (i.e. not LCCs, and there's that word service again) advertise re their service. Yes, it's an airlines prerogative to maximise profits, but they should still be held accountable to provide the service they advertise.
But you are getting a service just not on the type of plane you thought.
 
You'd have an argument if the change was to schedule but an eqipment change? Nope.

I get it. You wanted the suites for a longer flight and to get the 737 transcon is a real let down, but it was also your choice to cancel and re-book with VA. I see no issue with QF charging the appropriate fees for the cancel (I'd arguge about the phone service fee given you couldn't cancel online due to the upgrade, but that's a separate issue).

You bought a ticket for carriage from A to B to a certain schedule and in c class of service (inc upgrade, which it seems held even with the swap). QF proided what you paid for even if it wasn't what you wanted.

Yes I'd be annoyed, but I wouldn't have rebooked. Each to their own
 
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