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equus

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Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
 
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RichardMEL

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Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
It's a fair point, but all DSC promos (and other bonus SC promos) have all counted towards the 3600 P1 threshold.. just NOT the Platinum Bonus Reward (2400 SC) and the various P1 bonus rewards (eg: at 5k SC, 7k SC etc).. but they have all counted for P1 accural.
 

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Yes. I understand the logic. This just seems to be an awfully wasteful way to ensure WP in two years time (and there's no guarantee that the rules won't change by then, of course).

My point is regarding your comment about "moving" DSC bookings into the next membership year (or from it). This implies you have one of the targeted ones, since the last general DSC offer allowed for travel till 31 August this year. However, I'll use that as an example

If your membership year ended on July 31 then you're suggesting you could move some DSC eligible flying from August to prior to the end of July this year. Remember I don't know YOUR exact circumstances, I am just making up dates here.... so the idea would be to get enough to make 3600 inc DSC by the end of July.

Not knowing how short you are of 3600 at this point, but I'll assume 800. Reading between the lines of the above, you have enough current bookings under DSC conditions to get, for exampe, 800 SC. Seems you do not have enough to make 1200 because if you did this wouldn't be an issue, you'd leave those bookings in the next membership year and have nigh on two membership years of WP.

But what if you, instead of moving the DSC trips into THIS membership year, but you kept them in the next and then fly the extra as status runs in your next membership year? Yes, I know you have little planned flying (dropping to silver obviously imlies a sub 300 earn). Of course if you're WP now, you'd drop to Gold next year anyway, but that would then, I presume, drop to Silver the year after which you want Wp for. If it were me, I would keep the DSC trips in next membership year, and do a couple of status runs, which would up back to WP, which would continue for the year after. You wouldn't have P1, but you'd still achieve your goal.

IMO.
This pretty much sums up the situation. Indeed, my anniversary date is the 31st of July. I can move a couple of bookings of approx 600SCs into August (for trips I need to take anyway) which would still qualify for DSC (Ts n Cs say 31Aug end date), and make a new booking for the June/July flights with QF, or even VA (and qualify for gold renewal with them). This would mean I probably have enough SCs in my next year to qualify for gold, which would be better than starting my flying again at Silver (I don't yet have LTG, just LTS).

I've got no inclination to do a status run for WP and I'd probably be hundreds of SCs away. I don't mind some mildly irritating routing to catch extra SC, but I could not be bothered getting on a plane simply for achieving status. It would also have me paying, rather than work. No thanks.

Just an observation - but it would pay to check the wording of the DSC offer - to see if it is one of the ones that excludes the DSC from eligibility to Status Bonus and WP1. May make the question moot.
Yep, I've checked this and confirmed with staff over the phone. The DSC promos I'm registered for all count towards P1 (but not the Platinum Bonus Reward at 2,400).
 

Mrmaxwell

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But what if you, instead of moving the DSC trips into THIS membership year, but you kept them in the next and then fly the extra as status runs in your next membership year? Yes, I know you have little planned flying (dropping to silver obviously imlies a sub 300 earn). Of course if you're WP now, you'd drop to Gold next year anyway, but that would then, I presume, drop to Silver the year after which you want Wp for. If it were me, I would keep the DSC trips in next membership year, and do a couple of status runs, which would up back to WP, which would continue for the year after. You wouldn't have P1, but you'd still achieve your goal.

IMO.
Agree.

Without knowing specifics there is nothing wrong with being SG/WP while doing little flying. Keeping both these status' active or within reach could be preferred. Hit WP at the start of your new year even better as you get almost 2yrs worth of status.
 

RichardMEL

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This pretty much sums up the situation. Indeed, my anniversary date is the 31st of July. I can move a couple of bookings of approx 600SCs into August (for trips I need to take anyway) which would still qualify for DSC (Ts n Cs say 31Aug end date), and make a new booking for the June/July flights with QF, or even VA (and qualify for gold renewal with them). This would mean I probably have enough SCs in my next year to qualify for gold, which would be better than starting my flying again at Silver (I don't yet have LTG, just LTS).
Then yes, go with gold. If you're doing little flying anyway (planned at this point anyway) next year then Gold is fine. You haven't indicated(that I see?) what level you are now or how many SC you have in THIS year which may help understand things a little better.

And if you have Goldf for Aug 20-July 21 membership year (ie: earned between Aug 1-30 this year) plus the little flying you have planned - which sounds like may be on other airlines anyway then that's fine. The only thing you REALLY miss from being plat is a slightly larger bag allowance, access to domestic J and int F lounges, and upgrade priority - only you know which of these you would benefit from the most or even need/want to use.

I've got no inclination to do a status run for WP and I'd probably be hundreds of SCs away. I don't mind some mildly irritating routing to catch extra SC, but I could not be bothered getting on a plane simply for achieving status. It would also have me paying, rather than work. No thanks.
Then it seems like you should fly your trips in August to me and attain Gold for your Aug-Jul 20 membership year. You still have very good benefits going forward, and if you have much more flying into 2021, then you'd soon likely take back WP anyway.

However if having status like WP is that important to you, then you have to decide which is the priority? Not getting on planes or having the status...

imo
 

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Dropped back to Gold from WP/WP1 for the first time in years...and amazed at the difference. Called up to book a QF reward ticket that errored out online (because of the extra availability for Golds and above and then booking for someone who is a Bronze bug, which has been around for ages and never fixed). Tried multiple times at different times of the day over several days and gave up after waiting 40+mins each time. Eventually about after 5th time, got through in 30mins and the agent had no clue what to do and just kept saying the seat doesn't exist. Gave up and asked my sister to book the flight for me (who is still WP) and she did it all in less than 10mins, with zero wait time on the phone.
I can't imagine what would happen if you had silver or bronze status...
 

Kangol

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Dropped back to Gold from WP/WP1 for the first time in years...and amazed at the difference. Called up to book a QF reward ticket that errored out online (because of the extra availability for Golds and above and then booking for someone who is a Bronze bug, which has been around for ages and never fixed). Tried multiple times at different times of the day over several days and gave up after waiting 40+mins each time. Eventually about after 5th time, got through in 30mins and the agent had no clue what to do and just kept saying the seat doesn't exist. Gave up and asked my sister to book the flight for me (who is still WP) and she did it all in less than 10mins, with zero wait time on the phone.
I can't imagine what would happen if you had silver or bronze status...
Did you soft land from P1 to WP? How many SC did you earn that year you dropped?
 

danielt25

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Interesting observation. I'm flying BNE/CNS this evening on a Red E-deal. On the standard Qantas website, I'm sitting in 4D. In the Qantas Business rewards site I'm sitting in 1A. If this is a complimentary P1 upgrade, seems to show up earlier in Business rewards site.

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kermatu

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P1 team usually able to secure me a spa booking in MEL F lounge (including last week) but not in SYD apparently (never mind, got a booking anyway also last week).
Shadows now seem to be placed for me in J on a 737. Shame they are always overridden by staff travelling at the last minute. ExpertFlyer can be a curse in this regard.
And the actual reason for this post - according to my app and much to my surprise I burst through 5k SCs and the requisite number on QF a few days ago to requal as P1 with over 3 months to spare. Used some very old GVs for a few sectors. A couple attracted DSCs which helped, though would have achieved it anyway based on travel this week alone.
No contact yet from the SST.
 

La Mouette

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I received an email from a person at the "5k" mark. But with DSCs, etc. not counting towards the 5k, I had no idea when I actually hit what they count as 5k, hence how long it took to be notified.
 

La Mouette

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Looking back at my flight history, it appears it took them either one day or one month. Hopefully in your case, it's one day!
 

kermatu

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Looking back at my flight history, it appears it took them either one day or one month. Hopefully in your case, it's one day!
I’m not fussed. Although this time I intend using my reply to any welcome email to provide a bit of feedback on QF generally, not just P1.
 

RichardMEL

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I’m not fussed. Although this time I intend using my reply to any welcome email to provide a bit of feedback on QF generally, not just P1.
War and Peace huh? Or rather "Crime and Punnishment" ? :D


re welcome emails etc.. yeah like meh I don't care myself. I know I have P1 again. After 4+ years I know what it gives.. it's a bit tokenistic tbh
 

chickentalon

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Then it seems like you should fly your trips in August to me and attain Gold for your Aug-Jul 20 membership year. You still have very good benefits going forward, and if you have much more flying into 2021, then you'd soon likely take back WP anyway.
Here's how I calculate it. I'm currently 3090 SCs (have already achieved >2,700 on QF). My Calendar year starts on 1-Aug.

If I want, I can move DSC bookings of 610 into August, I need to take these flights anyway. And re-book the original flights in June/July with QF (or even Virgin). This would mean I wouldn't qualify for P1 at ~3,400SCs in this current status year. But would mean that I'd easily qualify for Gold during that year, even though I probably won't be doing any other flying. However, if there is indeed a soft landing to WP after P1, then I may as well keep my DSC bookings and attain p1 status.

Here's my Status summary.
SC year startingDon't qual for p1 (end year SCs)Attain p1 (end year SCs)note...
current year
WP (3,400)​
P1 (3,700)​
1-Aug-2019
WP (700)​
P1 (~400)​
won't be flying much
1-Aug-2020
SG​
WP​
will be flying a lot

So if there is a soft landing to WP, it makes sense to attain p1, I'll start my 1-Aug-2020 year as WP with all the benefits and only need to achieve 1,200 SCs to re-qualify WP. Compared to flying that year as SG and needing 1,400SC to re-earn WP
 

RichardMEL

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Here's how I calculate it. I'm currently 3090 SCs (have already achieved >2,700 on QF). My Calendar year starts on 1-Aug.

If I want, I can move DSC bookings of 610 into August, I need to take these flights anyway. And re-book the original flights in June/July with QF (or even Virgin). This would mean I wouldn't qualify for P1 at ~3,400SCs in this current status year. But would mean that I'd easily qualify for Gold during that year, even though I probably won't be doing any other flying. However, if there is indeed a soft landing to WP after P1, then I may as well keep my DSC bookings and attain p1 status.

Here's my Status summary.
SC year startingDon't qual for p1 (end year SCs)Attain p1 (end year SCs)note...
current year
WP (3,400)​
P1 (3,700)​
1-Aug-2019
WP (700)​
P1 (~400)​
won't be flying much
1-Aug-2020
SG​
WP​
will be flying a lot

So if there is a soft landing to WP, it makes sense to attain p1, I'll start my 1-Aug-2020 year as WP with all the benefits and only need to achieve 1,200 SCs to re-qualify WP. Compared to flying that year as SG and needing 1,400SC to re-earn WP
That gives a lot more info thank you.

Yes, sure, if you attain P1 before end of July you'll have it till July 31, 2020 then, in theory, fall to WP for 2020. Yes, that makes sense.
 

chickentalon

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That gives a lot more info thank you.

Yes, sure, if you attain P1 before end of July you'll have it till July 31, 2020 then, in theory, fall to WP for 2020. Yes, that makes sense.
It is rather complicated. Would be a simple decision if the soft WP landing is confirmed. If there is no soft landing I'll be starting that last year of flying at silver with a QP membership...

Scenario with no soft landing.....
SC Year startingAttain p1 (end year SCs)
current yearP1 (3,700)
1-Aug-2019P1 (~400)
1-Aug-2020Silver (shudder)
 

Mrmaxwell

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Scenario with no soft landing.....
SC Year startingAttain p1 (end year SCs)
current yearP1 (3,700)
1-Aug-2019P1 (~400)
1-Aug-2020Silver (shudder)
You won't go from P1 to Silver in one go....nothing to worry about.

The real discussion needs to be how to maximise P1 with minimal flying ;)
 

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Just received my email congratulating me on retaining P1. It was nice and understated - simple info and not overhyping the program. Of most value was saying that my nominated relative or friend for comp WP status would rollover automatically unless I choose otherwise. Good approach and worthwhile being informed of this.

Sadly not tailored at all - how hard would it be to mention my nominated person by name, or state how many years I have been P1. But not a surprise. At least this one didn’t have any embarrassing errors.
 

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Here's how I calculate it. I'm currently 3090 SCs (have already achieved >2,700 on QF). My Calendar year starts on 1-Aug.

If I want, I can move DSC bookings of 610 into August, I need to take these flights anyway. And re-book the original flights in June/July with QF (or even Virgin). This would mean I wouldn't qualify for P1 at ~3,400SCs in this current status year. But would mean that I'd easily qualify for Gold during that year, even though I probably won't be doing any other flying. However, if there is indeed a soft landing to WP after P1, then I may as well keep my DSC bookings and attain p1 status.
Enhancements™ are coming soon to a FFP near you...
 

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