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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RichardMEL" data-source="post: 2337776" data-attributes="member: 52678">Fair points and of course there are many models of business travel paid for by clients, companies and SME's.My first thought actually I should have made earlier.. if one is on business travel, specially domestic (where one might be expected to get off an aircraft and go into a meeting) one probably would be expected, on work time to be drinking alcohol, but in the real world obviously on return trips, or say an evening flight before work the next day etc well it happens so kind of minor, but I am sure many corporate travel policies may address this, or at least workplace behaviours (I know mine does).That aside, my point was more that often the argument is related to service provided - food, drink, seat as applied to the price being charged. If I'm flying for work and either a client or my boss's budget is paying in theory (as you note) the company is paying BFOD, or is on a corporate contract/travel policy and one is probably either flying to a required schedule ad/or price point(so probably not QF on that one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ) - the choice may not be really up to the person doing the travel.Now I do understand fully that, as you say,, if one can provide a case for a better experience at a similar or lesser cost, then that totally goes back to my point above - pick VA.. or internationally you'd absolutely go for a SQ or EK as example over QF in this sort of situation...but does the "enjoyment of employees" then equate to, in this sepcific case, spirits being available? I'm not entirely sure that one would wash with many managers (unless perhaps on the trip too! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> )yes, the A380 IFE issue is far more significant I agree, and applicable (though supposedly a temporary one vs the spirit thing which has been ongoing for nigh on two years).Trust me if I was flying to, for example, europe or asia for business and a client or boss was paying I'd probably go for anything BUT QF if I had the chance so I get that.but if I had to fly QF due to schedule or corporate policy I personally wouldn't use the argument about the price paid for the product provided specially when it comes to something like alcohol. Now being put on a 737 to SIN wiithout lie flat bed for an overnight flight? That I would absolutely argue would impact on ability to perform optimally post the flight I think it's a harder "sell"(pun intended) if I can't have a G&T or three to relax on board. That's just me though <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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