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Answered is there a thread with all the abbreviations like sq (what the heck is sq?)

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I'm always confused by all the letters everyone uses to explain class or airlines etc, also j? I'm presuming is business class? is there a thread or can someone explain what the common ones mean? everything seems to have a q after the letter if people are talking virgin or other....and what letter is used for prep Econ and economy?
 

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Classes - basically the highest code that most airlines use.
F - First, J - Business, W/PE - Premium Economy, Y- Economy.

Most two letter codes are the airline IATA codes, used in flight numbers.
QF Qantas, VA Virgin, SQ Singapore, JQ Jetstar, 3K Jetstar Asia etc

Most three letter codes are the IATA airport codes
 

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also j? I'm presuming is business class?
As moa999 said, yes J is business class. But there are different 'classes' of business class, and these are given different letters by the airlines - eg D is 'discount business', 'I' is another business code. These are sometimes called the fare 'buckets'. Same with Economy and First.

This us what American Airlines use (just because it came up in a google search I just did).

F and A: first class
J, R, D and I: business class
W and P: premium economy
Y, B, H, K, L, G, V, S, N, Q and O: Economy

Here on AFF we often use 'J', 'Y', 'F' for short-hand for ALL business, economy, first class, irrespective of the strict fare category, or 'fare bucket', designated by the letter.
 

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In days gone by, the Mods (Moderators) of this forum would automatically underline an abbreviation, and hovering over this word would explain the full description and enlighten new visitors to this site, That practice has sadly become either obsolete or not popular. I loved it in the early days as it helped me to broaden my knowledge of jargon that is our vernacular.

Wish they'd bring it back, because there are still some days I am bewildered by someone's reference.
 

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J is the most expensive business class fare, there are others whats called sub classes, of F/J/Y, those are as mentioned above, First/Business/Economy.
If you google search, you will find them.
Note, too that not all the codes are used by the airlines, some airline will use some alphabets, some airlines, will not use them.
Not all airlines have premY.
PNR is passengernamerecord, alphanumeric, ie, BB34JQ, usually if you mention that when calling an airline, they can use their booking system to bring up your booking, just by you quoting those 6 alphanumerics.
On a code share, sometimes, what one airline in that code share will use for PNR, another airline will have a different PNR code.
Airlines sometimes use the AlphaBravocharlieDelta code too, so if you can spell WhiskeyOscarNovemberGolf, its a surname, not mine.
If you wan to really learn, you will need a spreadsheet.
EK-Emirates
EY-Etihad
QF-Qantas
NZ-(Air)New Zealand
VA-Virgin Australia
These are ICAO codings, but there are also 4 letter codes.
And then there are also airport codes, AVV for Avalon, MEL for Melbourne (Au), don't confuse it with MLB for Melbourne (US)...

You don't have to worry about premY, (not prep economy), as 99.9% of Aust domestic flights don't have this.
Its only 2 flights, across the QF (Qantas) Au domestic sector that has this, and unless you choose to book it, you won't get to use it.
Its only on QF9/QF10, between MEL and PER, (learn these too), and PER and MEL, where you fly as a ((domestic passenger on an international flight)), on QF, where you need either a photo id or passport to fly this flight on the QF 787.
Some of us on here, make it a point to fly that plane/flight, a lot of people find it troublesome to go through immi and int security screening just to fly from PER - MEL/MEL - PER, adding more time.
But as these flights go through the MEL T2 int terminal, and the PER T3 QF int terminals, some of us get our kicks from that.
Give it time, one day you will get to know a tonne, Traccy!
Oh, most important, DYKWIA is DoYouKnowWhoIAm, when business class travellers in the premium boarding lane, at the gate, speak up when economy gets to board the plane first.
 

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And here’s another one: ATA = Any Time Access. Refers to being able to access Lounge facilities even when not flying that day. So, you could pop in for a meal and a few drinks at anytime, provided that you had Platinum status. No requirement to fly. Nice little perk with QF and VA.

Well, due to over-abuse by some, including some airport workers who popped in for lunch everyday (and sometimes bragged about it), this perk has since been withdrawn and will probably not return.

ATA is something that you may never hear about, other than from those who still lament the loss. 😥
 
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In days gone by, the Mods (Moderators) of this forum would automatically underline an abbreviation, and hovering over this word would explain the full description and enlighten new visitors to this site, That practice has sadly become either obsolete or not popular. I loved it in the early days as it helped me to broaden my knowledge of jargon that is our vernacular.

Wish they'd bring it back, because there are still some days I am bewildered by someone's reference.
You could always ask on here.
 

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C cIass is also another subclass of J (business).
If you go to the AirNZ website, and put in a dummy booking, sometimes it will ask you to click a box that you are not a robot, but that is the only place, I can find that has got coding, in the booking process, using alphabets, where as QF/VA don't give you the subclass alphabets.
O for eg, is premY, ...
For some airlines, you need to know what subclass you are booked into.
With VA, its not till you go into your VFF (my bookings, and deep into it at that, to find) to find the alphabet code.
QF don't give it to you.
Oh, and did I mention, (sorry), this is my last waffle, keep your etix with the bar code at the top, till the points have posted to your relevant FF account.
QF are usually very good with posting of points, VA is good, but I find the SQ and partners a pain in the you know where, they have the propensity to decline miles for fares with partners.
 

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In days gone by, the Mods (Moderators) of this forum would automatically underline an abbreviation, and hovering over this word would explain the full description and enlighten new visitors to this site, That practice has sadly become either obsolete or not popular. I loved it in the early days as it helped me to broaden my knowledge of jargon that is our vernacular.

Wish they'd bring it back, because there are still some days I am bewildered by someone's reference.
As posted, the help section now contains that information, plus there is still a thread somewhere.

The function was useful, but did occasionally highlight parts of words that had nothing to do with the phrase, and the main problem was that it added significant overhead to the server, potentially slowing the site down.
 

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Don't see a lot of much good in their PS side.
It is neither here nor there in this thread, but I feel like Velocity Silver members actually have a more tangible benefit with their membership whereby The Lounge membership is significantly reduced, while the same could not be said of Qantas Silver and Qantas Club.

However, this thread I think has been answered.
 

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