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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lynda2475" data-source="post: 2335737" data-attributes="member: 19591">I'm not sure this is a given,  several media reports say that an unvaccinated people with covid tend to have higher viral loads than vaccinated and so the R rate for unvaccinated is higher, meaning they infect more people.Again without knowing the actual cause of death (it is not a given it was due covid, just that they had covid) this claim cant be substantiated.Chances are a good deal of them were  immunocompromised and not a good indication fo the protection afforded to most.  And other people just never generate good immunity from any vaccine.You also have no way to confirm if they were infected by a vaccinated or unvaccinated person if they have been out in public at all.    This can only be assumed if they caught covid whilst already in hospital in a ward where only other vaccinated people work/visit/are admitted.Transmission in and of itself is not necessarily a worry, ICU and hospitalizations numbers are what matters because that is what burdens our health systems.  We should be beyond worrying about the number of positive test results.If all the unvaccinated patient numbers were deducted from the hospitalization and ICU numbers (say from 3 months after their cohort became eligible),   and then re-added at the lower rate that vaccinated patients get admitted, there would be less clogging happening.  The high rate of vaccination, means the unvaccinated pool is small, but given 50% of ICU are unvaccinated then the rate of serious illness is much higher in the unvaccinated.  If for example we assume 92% of 16+ are vaccinated and from that pool 100 people are in ICU, then that is much better than the other 100 people in ICU from a pool of only 8% of the population.</blockquote>

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