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<blockquote data-quote="ethernet" data-source="post: 2319778" data-attributes="member: 5931"><p>A rather false cause rebuttal. It is about risk reduction. Epipens are for emergency situations, for mostly untrained people. Quite different from a controlled medical setting, for those who are meant to be skilled and knowledgeable. Denmark, Singapore and China see avoidable risk minimization as a no brainer and best practice. And the German experts found no evidence asserting or documenting the risk comparisons for the downgrading to non-aspirations. I suggest the govt is pandering to people who fear needles generally, to make the experience 'better' , against those who know there is no peer reviewed evidence for medical 'short cuts'. </p><p>I would hate risk 'needle stick injury' propped in there, for a calm patient that specifically requests professional delivery. Especially as it is known that leakages are proven in rats? to damage the heart.</p><p></p><p>Another difference in the last 20 years or so, is the sizable number of people doing weight lifting, extreme exercise / body sculpting, and some taking steroi_s. Also people doing repetitive gaming/phone/keyboard work. Muscles need blood supply. If my doctor/chemist does not aspirate - I am going elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>I know one doctor who trots out a ground glass syringe intracardiac injection with 5 inch needle, so that they see the modern needle is nothing to worry about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ethernet, post: 2319778, member: 5931"] A rather false cause rebuttal. It is about risk reduction. Epipens are for emergency situations, for mostly untrained people. Quite different from a controlled medical setting, for those who are meant to be skilled and knowledgeable. Denmark, Singapore and China see avoidable risk minimization as a no brainer and best practice. And the German experts found no evidence asserting or documenting the risk comparisons for the downgrading to non-aspirations. I suggest the govt is pandering to people who fear needles generally, to make the experience 'better' , against those who know there is no peer reviewed evidence for medical 'short cuts'. I would hate risk 'needle stick injury' propped in there, for a calm patient that specifically requests professional delivery. Especially as it is known that leakages are proven in rats? to damage the heart. Another difference in the last 20 years or so, is the sizable number of people doing weight lifting, extreme exercise / body sculpting, and some taking steroi_s. Also people doing repetitive gaming/phone/keyboard work. Muscles need blood supply. If my doctor/chemist does not aspirate - I am going elsewhere. I know one doctor who trots out a ground glass syringe intracardiac injection with 5 inch needle, so that they see the modern needle is nothing to worry about. [/QUOTE]
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