The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[drron]

So what you're really saying is NT and ACT are perfect!

Probably.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I think ABC /Fed Govt have a calculator issue lol.....I’m not sure 25 vials (up to 150 doses) is 0.1% of the doses distributed

 

[RooFlyer]

Since Tuesday, by Friday pm 1159 vaccinations given at the Royal Hobart Hospital under the state program. Said to be slightly ahead of schedule. Close enough to the full tray of vials that arrived, 6 doses per vial. One syringe dropped and discarded when a sticky label caught.

Another tray of vials due Sunday.

Since Monday, by Thursday night, 392 doses given to residents and staff of 5 nursing homes in NW Tas under the commonwealth program.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I didnt edit the article, i posted the full link and cut the two quotes which showed that they were ünused doses. I did not change a single word, the quotes were direct. Apparently its ok for you to post selected lines from an article but noone else - i posted the quotes that proved what you are implying that they werent left over is not correct.

Its not me failing to grasp anything, its you. Yes the incorrect storage resulted them in needing to be thrown out, but you are ignoring the fact it only got to that point because there were unused. They adminstered doses to 70 residents, then stored the remaining vials unreliably.

Had they notified the over delivery on Wednesday morning (delivery day), the poor over night storage wouldnt have seen them go to waste. They could have been used elsehwere on the same day or taken to somewhere where correct storage procedure could be followed.

And tonight how many unused doses are sitting in a fridge or freezer now? Every one! With correct temperature monitoring they are all good to go still and ready to be used in the appropriate order.

The priority right now is to get the people that most need the vaccine to get those doses first. Storage is all part of the process so that the order of distribution is maintained. We are not in the life and death situation that say the USA or the UK are in.

Correct temperature monitoring of the fridge and those 25 vials just get injected the next day, or any time within the 5 day max period, into the right people (ie other elderly in aged care facilities) and not to randoms. Simples.

25 million people/ 50 million doses and injections of people to go. Both vaccines will be stored in fridges. Fridges with correct monitoring is required as overnight storage at injection sites will be required again, and again and again. It is all part of the process. They got it wrong this time and will have learnt. It is a small problem in the scheme of things and there is no need to abandon getting the vaccine injected into the right people first.

 

[flydoc]

.They got it wrong this time

Yes they did

and will have learnt.

Time will tell

It is a small problem in the scheme of things

Relatively, yes. But again, avoidable and a distraction/detraction from the main (good news) story

… wasting a few vials is trivial in the argy bargy of overall government wastage..
Ships/submarines/insulation/water/electricity…..…and on it goes...

Sure, although the federal government has contracted out the aged care vaccination rollout, to companies who
a) know how to charge and b) are meant to be experts at this stuff.

 

[OATEK]

Sure, although the federal government has contracted out the aged care vaccination rollout, to companies who
a) know how to charge and b) are meant to be experts at this stuff.

The federal government contracted out vaccinations because it does not operate health care services in the appropriate locations. In fact, it does not really provide health care services anywhere much in Aus, that is the state and territories responsibility.

 

[RooFlyer]

Sure, although the federal government has contracted out the aged care vaccination rollout, to companies who
a) know how to charge and b) are meant to be experts at this stuff.

Fair 'nuf, but I don't think anyone would have believed, or expected, any claim that an organisation was an expert at a mass vaccination program of hundreds ?thousands? of aged care facilities where the vaccine had to be kept at -70 deg C until just before injection and came in multi-dose vials.

 

[Lynda2475]

ABC New Covid Blog reports:

Five vaccine hubs to open across regional NSW next month​

Five COVID-19 vaccination hubs and 99 regional sites will open from mid-March.

The hubs will be at hospitals in Newcastle, Wollongong, Wagga Wagga, Coffs Harbour and Dubbo. The 99 satellite services will open progressively from March 15.

The initial focus will be on frontline healthcare and border workers, before a wider rollout of the vaccine through GPs.

Premier Gladys Berejiklian says the state is "on track to achieve its goal of more than 35,000 vaccinations in the first three weeks" of the vaccine program.

 

[OZDUCK]

The federal government contracted out vaccinations because it does not operate health care services in the appropriate locations. In fact, it does not really provide health care services anywhere much in Aus, that is the state and territories responsibility.

I was vaccinated against Smallpox and Typhoid by a Commonwealth Dept. of Health Doctor at their office in Fremantle. Admittedly that was in 1973 when the Commonwealth still took an active part in the physical quarantine control of the borders - especially in regard to 'human' quarantine matters.

 

[Lynda2475]

ABC news covid blog reports

First doses of AstraZeneca vaccine arrive in Sydney

In news just in, Australia's first doses of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine have arrived in Sydney.

The vaccines have been transported to a storage facility in Western Sydney, where they're being kept under tight security.

The first batches are being imported, with the vaccine then to be made locally. It's the second vaccine to arrive in Australia, with the first week of the Pfizer vaccinations already completed for frontline workers and aged care residents

 

[RooFlyer]

Although I’ve read on other forums there is only five doses and the sixth isn’t a dose at all and additionally our syringes can only extract four doses. God knows if all of that is true

Head of roll-out in Tas has said a number of times that they are getting 6 does per vial, and numbers quoted of those vaccinated from the single tray we received confirms this.

A syringe may take 4 doses, but you wouldn't want to do that (except the QLD guy) - they carefully take up a single dose from the vial, administer and discard. Repeat.

 

[Must...Fly!]

The company that employed the doctor who gave the excess dose in Brisbane falsified documents to the federal government claiming the doctor was trained. Apparently he never started the training.

 

[jase05]

Some states seem a bit tardy with their vaccinations

 

[Pushka]

Some states seem a bit tardy with their vaccinations

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Just discussing this on the Australian spread thread (off topic ). Tasmania rocks, ACT too, NSW doing pretty good. We in SA, yawn. Slowly slowly

Its also annoying that Aus Health keeps saying adults will have received at least one vaccination by October. SA Health says - by Christmas. Do they think we can't read or something?

 

[DC3]

Some states seem a bit tardy with their vaccinations

Are there delays between administering vaccinations and the reporting, or is that reported “live”?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I don't understand Victoria's policy of 'deliberately slow' with the vaccine roll out! Our numbers are 1/3 of NSW!!!

 

[Must...Fly!]

I don't understand Victoria's policy of 'deliberately slow' with the vaccine roll out! Our numbers are 1/3 of NSW!!!

So the question is, is that down to slow rollout from Federal aged care contractors or state government program for healthcare professionals

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

So the question is, is that down to slow rollout from Federal aged care contractors or state government program for healthcare professionals

This table shows its solely the Vic State government program: Vic - jabbed 30% of doses received. Fed - 72%

Where you can get vaccinated

Find out where COVID-19 vaccines are being rolled out across Australia.

www.health.gov.au

 

[dajop]

I don't understand Victoria's policy of 'deliberately slow' with the vaccine roll out! Our numbers are 1/3 of NSW!!!

Is it not hard to make a definitive judgement after just one week? It’s sort of like judging performance in a footy match a minute or two after the opening bounce.

I notice the linked information about the number of vaccines that were delivered to all states ... but when were they delivered? All states on same day, some a small amount first and then more later ? A delivery on 22nd is different to one on 28th. Who knows!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

This table shows its solely the Vic State government program: Vic - jabbed 30% of doses received. Fed - 72%

Where you can get vaccinated

Find out where COVID-19 vaccines are being rolled out across Australia.

www.health.gov.au

Note for example with the new Bendigo Hub they have stated that Aged Care is the initial priority.

There is no Fed Hub. The Pfizer Vaccines are all stored at 3 hospitals in Vic. So all Pfizer vaccinations in Vic go through the storage at the three hospitals before being split for use, though I believe that the Fed Aged Care Program is mainly if not totally supplied from Monash. So it could also be that they are choosing to have more vaccines proportionally go to aged care initially.

Remember too that the Vic allocation for Health workers was recently doubled as it was too low for that segment (See the AMA interview on ABC). However it may be that they are yet to ramp up the Health worker distribution as it is not known on what date the doses actually arrived.


Give it another week and we will see if numbers have ramped up. If not, then we will have a problem.