Fear of Flying!!

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sonja

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Hi everyone!!
i am new on here today and wanted to find out who else out there has a fear of flying and if there is anything they did about it....
i have flown around a bit, overseas once and to be honest it never gets easier...... it am completely terrified to the point of massive anxiety attacks that i am sure put a massive strain on me physically..

i really want to fly to America this year for my birthday but at this stage i too afraid to book the ticket.. especially now after the air france tragedy... that was so sad, i cant believe it even happened.... i have read so many articles that say planes are fine in lighting and storms, but now the media is saying the plane went down because it was hit by lightening in feirce storm!!
i have also heard that the flight from Sydney to LA is one of the worst flights for storms and turbulance.. i am worried that i will end up so afraid that whole trip will be ruined by my fear.... it makes me really angry at myself for being so whimpy..... i wish i could just snap myself out of it!!
 
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I know the fear of flying is very real to some people. Don't let it ruin your birthday, maybe see a hypnotist or do the fear of flying course, ring Qantas they may have a course or direct you to some one that does. Just remember, many millions of people fly all over the world every day without incident. Some say it is safer than driving to work!
 
hi,
yeah i know. i mean statistically its safe!! but its hard to think like that when your heart starts racing.....
the qantas course, which i only just found out about has already been on for this year and my birthday is in December so i only have till then to build up the courage.
i might look into something else, i just feel like i really need to talk to a pilot who does the sydney to la trip regularly and can let me know what to expect. i think that would help a lot..
 
Welcome to the forum.

I would STRONGLY recommend calling Qantas and asking which Fear of Flying course(s) they currently run or recommend.

Some time ago I met one of their pilots (same one who does the segments on the QF radio IFE) who cant speak highly enough of fear of flying courses which (in his experience, including being an "instructor" in some of them) are remarkably successful. They are open to anyone from "mums and dads" to global businessmen who's careers depend on being able to get on/off aircraft.


He also commented, in some cases, it may not "cure" you, but it should make it bearable. So that's probably a target outcome.
 
Hi sonja, Welcome to AFF. :D

My wife is a fearful flyer so I really do understand your concerns.

There is a lot of information and advice posted in this thread from last year:


FWIW, last night I flew from Los Angeles to Melbourne. It was one of the more comfortable flights I have had - even then the seat belt signs had to come on two or three times due to turbulence. This is quite normal with a 14 hour flight across the pacific.
 
hi, thanks guys..
i have just called qantas and they cant reccommend anything until next year... i really need something now.. i am looking into hypnotherapy and i am just waiting to hear back about it..


so.... how bumpy was it from Melbourne to America?? i mean i have heard this is the best time of year to go, also, if you know, how does the time difference work in regards to flying at night? is it possible to fly only in daylight to the US?
the worst flight i ever had was one over the ocean at midnight, it was so scary and was made even worse by the fact that everyone was asleep and it was all so quite... i dont think i can do that again if i can help it..
 
Sonja,

Are you traveling alone or with someone? If you are traveling with someone you will find it less stressful. I do 30-40 sectors a year and when traveling alone sometimes I still feel a little stressed out before take off. Once in the air I am fine.
 
The only mainline commercial flights currently scheduled across the Pacific that do not entail night flying are from Hawaii to Sydney - they depart mid-morning and arrive in the evening. This cannot not happen the other way as the length of the flight coupled with flying against "the direction" of ensures some night time flying is necessary.

You will almost always get some turbulence on such long flights - there is no problem here as the aircraft are designed to easily withstand them.
 
What is it that you are actually scared of? I find it hard to think about a fear of flying. I am normally asleep before take off on most flights...
 
i guess i am scared it wont make the journey and that something terrible is about to happen at every second!!!!
i just get so nervous all common sense is gone...

serfty, i dont mind some night flying, but its more turbulant at night so if i can avoid it i will.. how many hours would you say i would be flying in the dark for between sydney and La if i left sydney at say 6.00am?? or because we are a day ahead should i leave sydney in the afternoon??? its confussing...
i did an online fear of flying course which helped when i flew to melbourne.. i was going really well, but i feel now i have gone back 50 steps and i am even more afraid.. and after the latest tragedy i am not convinced planes should fly in storms.. :?:
http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/community/members/serfty.html
 
Here are some tips:

1. Turbulence may feel uncomfortable, but it is normal.
People often misunderstand turbulence. When encountering turbulence, nervous passengers feel the plane is "falling" out of the sky. It is natural for them to only feel the "down" bumps. But for every "down" there is an "up" bump. The "downs" are just more easily noticed. Next time you are driving on a bumpy road, imagine you are a passenger on a plane and how you would consider it to be "bad" turbulence. Now take a look at the road. How big are the bumps on the roadway to create the rough ride? The air is usually very smooth. But sometimes some small ripples can make it feel like "bad" turbulence!
2. The plane is strong, stable, reliable, and well maintained.
The Civil Aviation Authority mandates that modern jet aircraft are designed and built with large safety margins. All aircraft and their equipment are built from Civil Aviation Authority approved designs and manufactured under Civil Aviation Authority approved systems. Coming out of the factory, the planes are thoroughly flight tested before certification by the Civil Aviation Authority. Structurally, these aircraft can withstand many times the stresses and forces which can be imposed upon them in flight. Remember, airplanes are MEANT to be in the air. That’s where they’re happiest!
3. Trust the well trained and experienced crew.
When you board the plane mention to the flight attendants that sometimes you get a little nervous about flying, and ask if you may visit with the pilots. This is very important! The pilots are happy to have visitors, the flight attendants know this. You might be surprised at how receptive the pilots will be. Ask questions and mention your nervousness, they will understand and reassure you. The pilot's confidence is contagious. Now you have a friend up front who knows and cares about you! But remember, visits to the coughpit can ONLY be made on the ground, not during taxi or in flight. From Personnel, to Air Traffic Controllers, to Aircraft Mechanics, to the Flight Crew, there is no industry in the world with better trained, tested, skilled, and motivated professionals than the people in the airline industry.
4. Trust the airline industry.
Airlines insure your safe and secure flying experience by monitoring, inspecting and certifying the people who work in safety related areas of aviation. Aviation is "black and white". There are no "maybes". Either it is 100% safe, or we don't do it. You may have heard the saying, "Safety is no accident". Each worker takes pride in his or her own work and keeps an eye on others. Because we understand the importance of our work on the safety of others, we will not tolerate anything less than perfection!
5. Flying is routine, here's proof.
Many people take comfort in going to the local airport to watch all the planes takeoff and land. After a while you begin to see that the flight operations are indeed routine. Others like to study the ARRIVAL and DEPARTURE monitors in the airport terminal to see just how many flights operate safely. Did you know that worldwide nearly 3 million passengers fly every day?
6. Positive Thinking.
Always try to keep your thoughts in the present. Keep your thoughts positive. When you catch yourself thinking negatively, stop, and concentrate on the positive. Many people dwell on what might happen instead of what is happening. It can be easy to play a "disaster movie" in your mind and you are the in the starring role! When you catch yourself starting the production of one of these imaginary "disaster movies" turn off the projector. Try to occupy your mind with something more constructive. Read, do a puzzle, strike up a conversation.
7. Tense Your Muscles.
Be aware of your body. When you feel muscles that are tense or tight, you can relax them. Instead of fighting the tightness, show your muscles whose boss! You tense your muscles! You take control! Go ahead and tighten your stomach muscles or your leg muscles. Then pause and let go. You will be surprised at how your muscles feel warm and relaxed, and you once again feel in control.
8. Overactive Imagination.
Quite often people who have a fear of flying also have a strong or overactive imagination. For example, they might hear an unfamiliar noise during the flight, and begin imagining what might be wrong with the plane to cause this noise. Or, they may believe in "signs" or "premonitions" that their plane will crash. For example, they might have a dream, or hear a song on the radio about a plane crash. Odds are, you are not psychic! Remind yourself of this fact, and focus on reality.
9. How to deal with nervous feelings.
When you feel afraid, your breathing quickens and your heart races. To calm yourself, first push your stomach outward. Take a slow, deep breath through your nose. Try to fill your lungs from the bottom up. Pause, and then exhale slowly. Do this a couple of times and you'll feel much better. Practice your controlled breathing whenever you can. Try it whenever you feel tense. Slow, deep breathing is the easiest and most effective method for calming yourself.
10. Even if you feel panicky, it cannot hurt you or cause you to lose control.
Remember that fear is a normal reaction to a perceived threat. Once you learn the threat really isn't dangerous, the fear naturally goes away. Fear itself is not harmful, it is meant to protect us. A panic attack will not make you have a heart attack, faint, or lose control. That is how we are programmed. Fear acts as our defense mechanism. It prepares us to fight or flee.
 
thanks for all the info... i should print it and read it again when i fly!!!!!
 
SYD-HNL direct is about a 10 hour flight.

Even if it leaves at 6am such a flight would arrive in Hawaii around 10pm the previous evening. The reality is that the major airlines flying this route depart in the evening, fly overnight and arrive mid morning. A flight with this type of flying is often referred to as a "Red Eye" flight.
 
Maybe you can talk it through with your GP. This is not real advice - just a thought - but maybe you can take something so that you will sleep through the whole flight?
 
i really want to fly to America this year for my birthday but at this stage i too afraid to book the ticket.. especially now after the air france tragegy

Well Sonja - do you really need to go?

It sounds like you would like to test yourself again so why don't you go to youtube.com and type in fear of flying hypnosis - there are many examples of techniques to use to overcome your fear.

If you can afford to fly in business class, you will find that the extra space around you may make you feel better. Also, I find that when there is turbulence, and you're lying flat on a bed, the bed actually absorbs a lot of it!

I used to have irrational thoughts about flying but during a recent trip to San Francisco, I did not let one negative thought into my head. Both flights were most enjoyable. I watched some great movies, had great food, good wine, great company and had a very restful sleep. The 13 hour flight was over before I could think of anything that could go wrong with the plane!

The trip was very smooth - a little less smooth on the way home, but nothing major.
 
i guess i am scared it wont make the journey and that something terrible is about to happen at every second!!!!
i just get so nervous all common sense is gone...
About 15 years ago I started having panic attacks without real explanation so I was given Valium to relax whenever I had a panic attack or felt like I was about to have a panic attack. I am also claustrophobic. Aircraft or flying never bothered me before and pretty much nothing bothered me before this life changing episode.

I remember getting on a flight SYD-MEL a few months after the panic attacks started and I was in the last row of the aircraft. Waiting for take off my mind started racing and I started hyperventilating just before take-off. I took a Valium but had to talk myself through the panic attack which lasted about 15 minutes when we were close to the top of ascent. Anyway had a return trip to Greece a few months later and that was the last flights I took until 2003 when I started flying for work.

My fear of panic attacks, flying, claustrophobia stopped me from pursuing a passion I loved. Since 2003 I have not looked back and for the next 5 years I was taking 1-2 valiums before each flight. No problems once I am in the cabin as I am relaxed although I notice a lack of fresh air in the aircraft cabin.

Around 12-18 months ago I was chatting to my GP about taking Valium before each flight and he recommended that I try 1mg Xanax before each flight. The reasoning behind the recommendation is that Xanax is quicker acting than Valium and he is right. I fly almost every week SYD-BNE for work and I take 1mg of Xanax before each flight, sometimes if I have been stressed out and still feel like hyperventilating I will take 2mg of Xanax.

And for those people who do not quite understand various sorts of phobias will never understand them. The mind starts racing ahead on it's own. Uncontrollable. And personally I do not believe in hypnosis or courses. If curing panic attacks and phobias was that easy there would be no need to take drugs....
 
G'day Sonja,

Completely understand your situation - it was fear of flying that brought me to this very website (back in 04/05). Since that time, I've done enough flights to retain Gold Frequent Flyer status each year, which, in other words, means a HECK of a lot of flights!

Haing said that, I still find myself getting quite nervous. I'm currently at Perth airport, about to return home to Canberra via Sydney, and despite doing almost a flight a day for the past fortnight, am still a little anxious!

It never really does leave you, but it does get easier (as it all becomes a bit of a routine and the feelings/experiences become less noticable and intimidating). Like JohnK, I usually take 0.5-1mg of Xanax beforehand (altho I haven't done so tonight) - that does, for me at least, reduce the really bad feelings of sheer panic and catastrophe!

Have a search through previous threads (by 'fear of flying' or even my name!) and you should find some helpful info - otherwise, PM me and I'm happy to chat further!

Newflyer
 
Thanks everyone. It feels better to know other people out there have been afraid too. I swear when your one the plane you feel as though you are the only one feeling scared!!! At least I feel like that anyway..
I have heard about taking pills to make the fear go away a little, I guess I might look into it, although its hard to imagine it would work. :)
 
Thanks everyone. It feels better to know other people out there have been afraid too. I swear when your one the plane you feel as though you are the only one feeling scared!!! At least I feel like that anyway..
I have heard about taking pills to make the fear go away a little, I guess I might look into it, although its hard to imagine it would work. :)
You'll be right, nothing to be scared of!
 
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