Early Bird Sale: Double Points?

[eosphoros]

I haven't been sent an email yet regarding the Early Bird Sale. However, it seems that part of the promotion is double points. The Qantas website expressly provides "Four Continents. All Classes. Double Points". The problem is that I cannot for the life of me find the terms and conditions for this double points offer. Does anyone have any more information?

 

[Pushka]

I received info about this from a cruise site.

Nothing from Qantas. Starts 23rd.

 

[Sale]

The Qantas website still seems not to elaborate on the double points, but the Australian yesterday (23 September) had an article which included this:
"The Qantas fares must be booked by November 19 and are good for flights between March 1 and September 30 next year. They start at $1724 return economy to London, $1586 to Paris, $1599 to New York and $1399 to Santiago.
Frequent flyer members who book in the first three weeks of the sale also get double frequent flyer points on Qantas operated flights."

 

[markis10]

Details on the agents site:

Qantas are offering our Biggest Early Bird savings to four continents plus the chance to earn double points.


Customers can enjoy amazing savings to hundreds of destinations in North America, South America, South Africa and UK/Europe with our biggest ever Early Bird Sale.


Customers must book by 13 October 2014 to be eligible to earn DOUBLE Qantas Points. All new eligible Qantas International flight bookings in any class of travel to London Heathrow, Johannesburg, Honolulu, Los Angeles, New York, Dallas or Santiago are included in this offer.


To be eligible for this offer customer’s need to:


Register and make a new booking on eligible Qantas International flights between 12:01am AEST 23 September and 11:59pm AEST 13 October 2014;
Travel between 1 February and 31 October 2015, and
Include the Frequent Flyer number of each member in the booking


The bonus points offer is available on the following flight numbers between Australia and London (QF1, QF2, QF9, QF10), Johannesburg (QF63, QF64), Honolulu (QF3, QF4), Los Angeles (QF11, QF12, QF15, QF16, QF17, QF18, QF93, QF94, QF95, QF96, QF107, QF108), New York (QF15, QF16, QF107, QF108), Dallas (QF7, QF8) or Santiago (QF27, QF28, QF321, QF322). Note, these flights depart from Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane.


Remember, each passenger in the booking will need to register separately to earn the bonus points.


This great offer is on for a limited time only.


Terms and conditions apply refer to qantas.com/frequentflyer for full details.

 

[Ansett]

This is pretty poor of QF IMO in terms of lack of notification via email and then no Terms and Conditions available on the site.

Why is it so hard for QF to get what appears to me to be a simple thing so wrong, surely they cant be that damned stupid in the marketing and IT departments or can they?

What hope is their for QF when simple things appear to be a mammoth task !!!

 

[eminere]

According to the agent terms we would need to register first before making a new booking so pretty hard to qualify for the double points if there is no registration link on the site.

 

[medhead]

Also misleading. The qantas website, the public access point to this offer just says double points. Along with example fares for Paris and Rome. However, neither destination is eligible for double points according to the agent conditions. Not even eligible for qf1 to Dubai.

Not to mention a complete lack of registration link or notification of a need to register.

 

[eminere]

Would this be misleading or deceptive business conduct?

 

[cmon0005]

Also is it double points including any applicable 'Status bonus'? or just double base points?

 

[bPeteb]

I'm hoping they get this double points thing sorted out by next week. Our return dates aren't open yet (Sept 18) but this is the sale we've been waiting for!

 

[Ansett]

I'm hoping they get this double points thing sorted out by next week. Our return dates aren't open yet (Sept 18) but this is the sale we've been waiting for!

Just received email from the P1 team

Qantas.com has now been updated to provide a link to register for the double points and the terms and conditions.

Earlybird Sale | Qantas

I believe an email is also planned however due to the technical issues there has been a delay.

I hope this link provides you with the information you require


Cheers

Ansett

 

[serfty]

Received my email around 1130am ...

 

[Ansett]

And the answer is no to any bonus points based on status level, it does not clarify if points are earned based on cabin class so it seems it could be just on base points as applicable to a Bronze Member in the cheapest Y seat. If that is the case then its not that inviting

Bonus Qantas Points are based on the Base Rate which applies, or the Minimum Points Guarantee if applicable and for the purposes of this promotion, does not include any Status Bonus that may apply for tier members​

 

[serfty]

Bonus points would apply to cabin class based points earn.

There is a note in the landing page indicating that higher fare classes earn more bonus points.

 

[Ansett]

Bonus points would apply to cabin based points.

Hi serfty not so sure as it refers to minimum points guarantee and base rate. If only QF could make this simpler and fairer to understand LOL

 

[serfty]

Frequent Flyer - Member Specials - December Qantas Points offer

The minimum points guarantee is covered.

I don't think there's a abin bonus any more - Just different base rates depending on fare class and route.

Anyway:

...
Bonus Qantas Points are based on the Base Rate which applies, or the Minimum Points Guarantee if applicable and for the purposes of this promotion, does not include any Status Bonus that may apply for tier members. ...

Register Now

Don't forget, you earn more Qantas Points and Status Credits on our more flexible fares and in premium cabins, making this offer even more rewarding.


...

[SUP]^[/SUP] Status Credits and Qantas Points may not be earned on some fare types and booking classes including Classic Award flights and flights with a QF flight number on the ticket operated by Jetstar or Jetstar Asia other than in Economy classes of Y, B, H, K or L (earn in L class is eligible only when travelling on a oneworld® fare product). See Airline Earning Tables for details.

Status Credits and Qantas Points are earned in accordance with the Qantas Frequent Flyer Terms and Conditions.

The eligible Qantas flights for the purpose of this promotion are between Australia and North America (Los Angeles, Dallas, New York or Honolulu on flight numbers - QF3/4/7/8/11/12/15/16/17/18/93/94/95/96/107/108), South America (Santiago on flight numbers QF27/28/321/322), South Africa (Johannesburg on flight numbers - QF63/64) or UK (London Heathrow on flight numbers QF1/2/9/10).

Connecting Australian domestic flights and all other international flights listed above are not included in this offer.

The Early Bird Double Points offer is only valid when you register and make a new booking on eligible Qantas flights (as listed above) only between 12.01am (AEST) 23 September 2014 and 11.59pm (AEST) 13 October 2014 for travel between 1 February and 31 October 2015.

As the promotion travel end date is outside the booking system range, for tickets issued between 19 September 2014 and 19 November 2014 with a departure on or after 1 March 2015, you may change your return flight to be on or after 9 September 2015 once, without change fee.

Qantas may extend the offer.

Each passenger in the same booking must register separately to qualify for this bonus offer.

Flights are subject to availability and any applicable fare conditions. Flights can be booked via qantas.com, a travel agent or Qantas Contact Centres. Fees may apply.

Your Qantas Frequent Flyer membership number must be recorded at the time of registration and booking to earn bonus Qantas Points.

Bonus Qantas Points are based on the Base Rate which applies, or the Minimum Points Guarantee if applicable and for the purposes of this promotion, does not include any Status Bonus that may apply for tier members.

This offer cannot be used in conjunction with any other bonus offer by Qantas. Only one bonus Qantas Points offer can be used per individual qualifying segment of your itinerary. If you qualify for multiple offers, the offer first-registered for will be applied to each individual qualifying segment.

Full or part travel of an itinerary is eligible only if you book and travel within the promotional dates as listed above. If you change or cancel your initial qualifying booking and/or travel is completed outside the promotional period, this bonus offer will not apply.

Bonus Qantas Points may take up to 6 weeks after completion of your travel to be credited to your Qantas Frequent Flyer account.

± Qantas offers Economy, Premium Economy, Business and First on selected international flights. See qantas.com or contact your travel agent for details.

 

[bPeteb]

Thanks Ansett, all registered and ready to book next week

 

[medhead]

Would still like to know if QF1/2/9/10 MEL/SYD/DXB are eligible. Based on the fine print, it seems not as you have to go to the UK.

 

[eminere]

Would still like to know if QF1/2/9/10 MEL/SYD/DXB are eligible. Based on the fine print, it seems not as you have to go to the UK.

If your travel terminates in DXB (and not LHR) it is not eligible for the double points - DXB is not an eligible city for the promotion. The registration page makes it quite clear:

The Early Bird Sale is available from all Qantas departure points in Australia. Bonus points can be earned on the flights listed below between Australia and the following cities, if booked by 13 October 2014:

• London (Heathrow) - QF1, QF2, QF9, QF10;
• Johannesburg - QF63, QF64;
• Honolulu - QF3, QF4;
• Los Angeles - QF11, QF12, QF15, QF16, QF17, QF18, QF93, QF94, QF95, QF96, QF107, QF108;
• New York - QF15, QF16, QF107, QF108;
• Dallas - QF7, QF8; or
• Santiago - QF27, QF28, QF321, QF322.

Note: As part of the Early Bird Sale, any domestic flights connecting to the above international flight numbers, which depart from Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane, are not included in the bonus points offer.

 

[medhead]

If your travel terminates in DXB (and not LHR) it is not eligible for the double points - DXB is not an eligible city for the promotion. The registration page makes it quite clear:

That's the issue I have. The early bird sale to 4 continents with double points, with a number of European cities included in the sale, eg Paris, Rome, Barcelona. Does not actually provide double points if you fly using qantas partners to those cities. Not even double points just for the QF metal flight to dxb.

Keep in mind that when I open up the qantas website it shows me Earlybird sale. 4 continents. Double points. And then lists ADL-Paris and ADL-Rome. I bet if I search either of those routes it will show me ADL-DXB-destination. Meaning no double points.