Downgauging HKG service

[Isochronous]

Hong Kong rattles Qantas as travellers change plans

Qantas has confirmed that escalating protests in Hong Kong are hurting its business, reporting that it is looking at sending smaller planes to the territory as travellers change their plans.

www.abc.net.au

Reference to a 7% capacity cut elsewhere - would this be simply switching QF117/118 from A333 to A332? I suppose this might also put the Christmas/LNY period A388 service from SYD at risk too.

 

[Mattg]

It looks like all that's changing is more 332s being used on QF117/118 and the BNE-HKG & MEL-HKG sectors, instead of 333s. Nothing too dramatic and the schedules aren't being changed (for now).

 

[Ade]

QF127 yday was a A330, used to be a B747 or B787-9 last week
QF128 last week was a A330, was a B787-9 later changed a day before departure

QF is seeing dip in bookings, passengers and changing to smaller aircraft

 

[Hvr]

So where are the larger planes being utilised? And is there a resultant increase in passenger numbers on those routes?

 

[Mattg]

What is Qantas offering by way of compensation to passengers that were booked in Premium Economy on the 789 and then end up on an A330?

 

[sxc]

What is Qantas offering by way of compensation to passengers that were booked in Premium Economy on the 789 and then end up on an A330?

If it was like my experience a few years ago, $200 a sector

 

[Ade]

What is Qantas offering by way of compensation to passengers that were booked in Premium Economy on the 789 and then end up on an A330?

My guess is if QF had finalized the change of aircraft sufficiently early, QF would've offered to upgrade PE customers to J or move them to a different flight with PE or move to a different flight on J if the one they were originally booked on didn't have any empty seats ?

 

[mannej]

My guess is if QF had finalized the change of aircraft sufficiently early, QF would've offered to upgrade PE customers to J or move them to a different flight with PE or move to a different flight on J if the one they were originally booked on didn't have any empty seats ?

Originally QF may have bumped these pax up to J when W was quite new, however I do believe their standard action is to move these pax down to Y (keeping in mind that the 330’s have a maximum of 28 J seats).

 

[Ade]

however I do believe their standard action is to move these pax down to J

Did you meant to say "move these pax down to Y " ?

 

[Fergo747]

QF127 yday was a A330, used to be a B747 or B787-9 last week
QF128 last week was a A330, was a B787-9 later changed a day before departure

QF is seeing dip in bookings, passengers and changing to smaller aircraft

This has been happening periodically since the 787 took over the route. If you look back through flight radar you'll see that the 330 isn't uncommon.

Also, the 128 will (generally) always be a 330 when the 127 is as it's obviously the return unless there is a tech issue

 

[mannej]

Did you meant to say "move these pax down to Y " ?

I can’t blame my fat fingers can I but yes Y is correct.

 

[Lynda2475]

Oh this is a worry i have PE seats booked SYD-HKG Boxing Day and new Years Day - hope no downgrades to Y at that time, hopefully its picked up again to keep the 789 running.

 

[Spongbob]

Ummm..., is "downgauging" a word?

If so, what does it mean? Reducing perhaps?

 

[eastwest101]

Ummm..., is "downgauging" a word?

If so, what does it mean? Reducing perhaps?

I agree its an ugly word, but its commonly accepted now as "replacing a larger aircraft with a smaller one on a flight or route".

 

[Franky]

I agree its an ugly word, but its commonly accepted now as "replacing a larger aircraft with a smaller one on a flight or route".

Agree about the ugly word, I just typed in downguage into my dictionary, and it gave me the alternate of 'downgrade', which from my observations from those who have been so effected, is pretty much how they feel about their situation. Perhaps we should use it in lieu of the 'ugly' word?

 

[Ade]

Putting my thinking cap with a train logo on it

Rails are also called "gauge". So a narrow gauge means a rail assembly with shorter gaps between the rails and broad gauge means a rail assembly with wide gaps between the two rails.

In earlier days when rail system was established in India, all train lines were narrow gauge. A narrow gauge means rail coaches were smaller in width and could only travel at slower paces.

Later most of the tracks were upgauged to broad gauge - this means wider coaches and more speed.

So back to the context on hand, I think "downgauge" means downgrading from a wide body aircraft to narrow body aircraft. Could also mean reduction in capacity as a dotted-line meaning

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Ummm..., is "downgauging" a word?

If so, what does it mean? Reducing perhaps?

It's an airline industry term.

Upguage... downguage...

Similar to how the tech biz use 'automagically'

 

[Franky]

Putting my thinking cap with a train logo on it

Rails are also called "gauge". So a narrow gauge means a rail assembly with shorter gaps between the rails and broad gauge means a rail assembly with wide gaps between the two rails.

In earlier days when rail system was established in India, all train lines were narrow gauge. A narrow gauge means rail coaches were smaller in width and could only travel at slower paces.

Later most of the tracks were upgauged to broad gauge - this means wider coaches and more speed.

So back to the context on hand, I think "downgauge" means downgrading from a wide body aircraft to narrow body aircraft. Could also mean reduction in capacity as a dotted-line meaning

I know what you mean about narrow gauge rail, I'm from the State that started with 3'6' rail lines, and didn't that take a lot of time and money to correct! I can see what your'e getting at, but it should be two words. The words upgauge and downgauge in your text and mine is underlined indicating incorrect spelling.

 

[Isochronous]

I know what you mean about narrow gauge rail, I'm from the State that started with 3'6' rail lines, and didn't that take a lot of time and money to correct! I can see what your'e getting at, but it should be two words. The words upgauge and downgauge in your text and mine is underlined indicating incorrect spelling.

I have found that there are many words that seemingly are not in the Microsoft dictionary

 

[Franky]

I have found that there are many words that seemingly are not in the Microsoft dictionary

Or the Apple equivalent as the case may be...