BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rates

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The BITRE's domestic airlines' cancellations and punctuality report for November 2016 paints a poor picture of our domestic airlines:

http://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/files/BITRE_OTP_Report_November_2016.pdf

Many timetables are padded by the airlines but Sunshine Coast (Maroochydore) - Melbourne could only manage to have 60 per cent of its flight arrivals on time, which includes a generous 15 minute margin before a flight is counted as 'late.'

Canberra to Sydney led the Australian domestic routes with a cancellation percentage of 5.3 per cent but Melbourne - Sydney, the fourth busiest air route in the world was not far behind with 4.6 per cent.

Jetstar had an appalling cancellation rate from Melbourne to Perth of 7 per cent. Virgin Australia cancelled 5.7 per cent of Melbourne to Sydney flights northbound and 5.9 per cent southbound.

42.2 per cent of Jetstar's Melbourne to Newcastle flights were more than 15 minutes late arriving as were a shocking 46.2 per cent of JQ's Melbourne to Sydney flights. Tigerair's punctuality from Melbourne to Sydney was not great at 64.2 per cent but it was almost 12 percentage points above Jetstar's. Virgin Australia was the only airline northbound from Melbourne to Sydney to record punctuality above 80 per cent and at 80.2 per cent it only scraped in.

From Sydney to Melbourne it was even worse with VA the best operator but only with a punctuality percentage of 71.7 per cent. In contrast, 32.4 per cent of Qantas' Sydney to Melbourne flights - one in every three - were more than 15 minutes late (and others were cancelled.)

While we all accept that a few cancellations are unavoidable due to weather and like any surface or air transport operator, occasional breakdowns in service occur, the airlines advertise among other advantages that they offer (say) a 15 minute or half hourly frequency between SYD and MEL at busier times of Sundays to Fridays - yet some of these flights are often cancelled so that passengers can be 'amalgamated' onto another flight, no doubt at times because bookings are adjudged insufficient to operate the full advertised program.

Imagine the outcry if Woolworths, Coles or IGA only had 95 per cent of their specials available at every store, and it wasn't the fault of the supplier, but a unilateral decision by the supermarket chain that it would not stock an advertised special, or it would only offer the goods at the normal shelf price.

Up In Queensland, Queensland Rail has got itself into all sorts of strife by not being able to operate its full advertised timetable because it lacked (and lacks) sufficient train drivers. This has claimed the scalp of its Chairman and its CEO. There have been numerous media articles with the Queensland transport Minister having to constantly explain himself.

Yet our domestic airlines do this all the time. No one is ever sacked from the airlines because of this.

No one holds them to account. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission does not do anything.

Why should airline passengers who respond to advertising and book what appears to be a service with very good offered frequencies, or who in many cases have rushed days with many appointments, be treated so poorly in comparison to say supermarket shoppers? It may seem a minor inconvenience to have to wait an extra 15 minutes or half an hour for a Sydney to Melbourne flight but it's not if the second one then gets delayed, and the passengers find themselves having to cope with more traffic on the Tullamarine Freeway and CityLink (given Melbourne's sorry lack of a railway line into the CBD from the airport.)

What this appalling performance on our major airline routes again demonstrates is how badly Australia needs high speed trains from Melbourne - Canberra - Sydney and on to the coast and up to the Gold Coast and Brisbane.

I feel sorry for Australia's many business travellers who cannot avoid travelling by air domestically yet have to put up with this shoddy performance when in comparison overseas, thanks to politicians with greater vision than we appear to have in Australia Federally, passengers are able to use high speed rail on many routes as long as Melbourne to Canberra or Sydney, or Sydney to the Gold Coast or Brisbane.
 
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Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

A perverse problem with being too rigid with on time performance, is to drive up costs (ie. to have tons of spare aircraft, crews etc) and also to prioritise timing / schedule over safety. Neither of those are desirable outcomes (from pretty much anyone's point of view).


I'd also suggest the lack of availability of specials IS an issue at the major supermarket chains - my local supermarkets (and I keep changing when one gets too terrible) are constantly out of stock of items i want.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

A perverse problem with being too rigid with on time performance, is to drive up costs (ie. to have tons of spare aircraft, crews etc) and also to prioritise timing / schedule over safety. Neither of those are desirable outcomes (from pretty much anyone's point of view).

The airlines are happy to take our money and heavily advertise and sell these promised flight frequencies.

It's up to each airline to allocate sufficient resources to ensure that these timetables can be met, safety maintained and cancellation rates lowered to a more acceptable percentage.

As I acknowledged above, transport equipment from a bike to a huge Panamax ship can always fail when operating, but this should not account for the high cancellation rates of flights.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

The airlines are happy to take our money and heavily advertise and sell these promised flight frequencies.

It's up to each airline to allocate sufficient resources to ensure that these timetables can be met, safety maintained and cancellation rates lowered to a more acceptable percentage.

As I acknowledged above, transport equipment from a bike to a huge Panamax ship can always fail when operating, but this should not account for the high cancellation rates of flights.

Any my point is that they would require yet more of our money to maintain a 99% on time performance. A price most are unwilling to pay.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

I did not suggest '99 per cent' on time performance as a goal.

However it should be consistently above 92 per cent, including with less padding of timetables.

A very poor performance at present, with timetables having additional time inserted into them yet even with this, timekeeping is shocking.

Certainly not like Japan's trains or its airlines!

The Australian business community already 'pays' for this Australian domestic airline inefficiency in lost productivity as journeys take longer than they should, or indeed on the major east coast routes would with high speed rail once one factors in the changes of mode and transfer times included in a flight. Businessmen are less productive because they are constantly switching from car/Uber/train/taxi/limousine to the boarding process at the airport and then repeating it at the other end in reverse.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

A number of my flights in November and December were cancelled in advance and was placed on other flights. I book flights at a certain time to connect to other forms of transport. Almost each time I have had to call to cgange to a flight I want.

What worries me is Qantas have already cancelled one of the flights on a May booking. Very disappointing.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

There were quite a few weather events in November around the country which played havoc with aircraft times and cancellations. Easier to cancel a MEL-SYDvv flight and put the passengers on a flight going within 15 min - 1 hour, then it is to cancel a flight with only a few a day.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

There were quite a few weather events in November around the country which played havoc with aircraft times and cancellations. Easier to cancel a MEL-SYDvv flight and put the passengers on a flight going within 15 min - 1 hour, then it is to cancel a flight with only a few a day.

True - but it doesn't match the advertising of our two major airline groups.

Compare it to high speed rail overseas that in many sorts of weather manages to still reliably and pretty much punctually operate.
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

True - but it doesn't match the advertising of our two major airline groups.

Compare it to high speed rail overseas that in many sorts of weather manages to still reliably and pretty much punctually operate.

Weather plays less havoc on trains than it does planes. Surely your endless delays and cancellation posts should have enlightened you on this.

And I don't see airlines anywhere advertising the OTP. And people certainly don't book. They look st the cheapest price most of the time.

Of course if we had it your way there would be no fare buckets and we'd all have to buy full Y tickets to make it half profitable for the airlines to stay in business. No one has the cash flow to have standby aircraft if one goes unserviceable, or staff around in case the inbound flight has a delay.

Fact is there are so many variables outside an airlines control to throw a timetable out.

Tell me, who is to blame when SYD or MEL goes down to one runway and everything is delayed??
 
Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

And I don't see airlines anywhere advertising the OTP.

That's not true: airlines love to boast if they are better than their competitor, or aspire to it if they are not. 'Free media' via comments can deliver a lot of exposure:

Virgin promises better-than-Qantas punctuality - Australian Business Traveller

Qantas beats Virgin for running on time for fifth year in a row

Australia's least-reliable airline

Price is a consideration for those travelling on business but it isn't the only one:

Aussies committed to their favourite carrier | Perth Now

None of your argument refutes my points that the Melbourne to Sydney and on to Brisbane corridor would be better served by high speed rail than is the case currently with our much delayed airlines. Rail wouldn't be suitable for every journey: more might travel still by air BNE to MEL or v.v, but for SYD - OOL, MEL - CBR, CBR - CFS, SYD - BNE, SYD - MEL and so on the airlines would lose a huge amount of market share.
 
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Re: BITRE November 2016: appalling punctuality and higher than usual cancellation rat

That's not true: airlines love to boast if they are better than their competitor, or aspire to it if they are not. 'Free media' via comments can deliver a lot of...

That's news articles, show me advertising campaigns..

Price is a consideration for those travelling on business but it isn't the only one:

Price is a bigger factor than loyalty for the leisure Traveller.. that's the bigger market.

None of your argument refutes my points that the Melbourne to Sydney and on to Brisbane corridor would be better served by high speed rail than is the case currently with our much delayed airlines. Rail wouldn't be suitable for every journey: more might travel still by air BNE to MEL or v.v, but for SYD - OOL, MEL - CBR, CBR - CFS, SYD - BNE, SYD - MEL and so on the airlines would lose a huge amount of market share.

I never said it wasn't. My point was and I'll make it again rail is less affected by weather than airlines. So it's pointless to have the same punctuality rates for different modes of transport. There are many more external factors affecting airline operations than a train. And sure the airlines would lose out, but given the population growth and increase in travel it probably wouldn't be so much.
 
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