Any way to exclude the econ/premium seat options in business class searches?

[ggm]

I don't believe there is a way to do it but, if there is some method of excluding seat availability checks from showing routes with significant (international, long haul) segments in downgrade classes, I'd love to know.

QFF seem to me to have a significant case of the 'what? you didn't realize we meant economy was business' logic going on here. Nice trick, especially if you can charge the business-rate points for the package. Phwoar! wish I could do that with my expenses and work!

Also, (and I know its bad to have two Qs in one posting) I'd love to know if the WP status still achieves miracle-seat-availability on congested routes. My sense is that "computer says no" breaks out all over now.

SIn-FRA, HKK-FRA, BKK-FRA are not the seat freebie heaven I assumed they would be. LHR looks increasingly like the path of least resistance for seat availability, which is a bit of a PITA if your trip is to Northern (Finnair?) or or Central (FRA-hubbed) destos.

-G

 

[pshepvic]

I am tired of this same situation when searching for J awards as well. For late next year virtually every seat has this exact issue, and it's misleading and time wasting. And even if they do it, I think it's totally wrong to charge the full J rates when half is downgraded. Sometimes it is even MEL-SYD in J, then SYD-LHR in Y, which is just appalling.

As far as better availability for WPs? Well for me it is two fifths of stuff all ... unless its a domestic seat I'm after, there seems to be very little else.


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[Kendall Roy]

An option which would solve some but not all of this problem is an flag/variable for "Direct Flights Only".....

 

[pauly7]

Has someone asked Red Roo to comment on this?

I can always find avails being WP but boy it can take some time to wade through the incorrect flights!!

I called the call centre a couple of months ago to get them to help (they can somehow magically cut out the y/pe flights) and they said its a common complaint.

I would hope if it's a common complaint then something is being worked on to fix it.

.....A small part of me wonders if this opens up the flights to the masses though, not just us lot on here who persist!

 

[pshepvic]

An option which would solve some but not all of this problem is an flag/variable for "Direct Flights Only".....

Doesn't work when you want to fly to Europe as there are always two flights.

That then gets into the debate over Direct vs Non-stop again! Technically "direct" can still have a stop, and therefore the same class of service may not be available on each leg.

Additionally, if you want to fly to some destinations you'll invariably have to change flight numbers anyway, so it's not really direct if it is a different aircraft and flight number.


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[ellen10]

Yes I have been researching flights to Europe next year and am having the same problem. When I select a flight I find only 1 sector in the class I want. I too have waded through many many options only to find I can never get a flight all the way in the class I want. And those points rip off. I even tried to break the bookings up into sectors but it still worked out the same number of points and still some sectors in economy.

Most frustrating AND time consuming!

 

[Stephen65]

This is probably the single silliest and most annoying feature of the QF system. It wouldn't take a coder very long to write to create an option box to tick so as to only include those itineraries that are solely in J or F - as other airline search pages allow you to do.

It doesn't make look QF look good at all - the kind explanation is incompetence and the cynical one is that QF is happy to sell you a full J cost award for a itinerary that is say MEL-SYD in J and SYD-LHR in Y and if you don't notice too bad.

 

[ggm]

In defense of the undefensible, if your plan is to make the booking anyway and use waitlist or seat-release to secure the other leg, you kinda need to know you can get it.

So, we probably need both modes: searches to secure all-the-way, and then fallback on partials so you can wedge something in, and then open it up a bit later.

 

[Limewood]

Been a PITA for long time, plain and simple its wrong, just imagine those who booked not realising their mistake in doing so.

Waiting on Red Roos reply.

 

[Princess Fiona]

On the flipside, when searching for a J multi-city including the LOTFAP it is not uncommon to find some AA flights appear with 'A' booking class, I actually like this little anomaly

 

[Grooba]

This is probably the single silliest and most annoying feature of the QF system. It wouldn't take a coder very long to write to create an option box to tick so as to only include those itineraries that are solely in J or F - as other airline search pages allow you to do.

It doesn't make look QF look good at all - the kind explanation is incompetence and the cynical one is that QF is happy to sell you a full J cost award for a itinerary that is say MEL-SYD in J and SYD-LHR in Y and if you don't notice too bad.

+1.

The absolute worst part of the QF site IMHO.