Any Lie Flat/Angle Business Class options to Hawaii from Australia?-

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I am looking to go to Hawaii next year and would prefer to travel the 10+ hour trip on a Lie Flat or Lie Angle Business Product. But short of going to LAX and then over to Honolulu I can't find one.

Qantas uses the old planes on this route and has the Domestic Business Class Product, Jetstar the same sort of Product, and Hawaiian Airlines the same as well.

Then I checked using Air New Zealand and thought I was onto a Winner going via NZ to Hawaii but again they use their 737s on this route which use the same old style Business seating as the others mentioned above.

So have I missed something or is the only option to be put up with reclinging only products on one of the above, or going via LAX using the Lie Flat product and then onto Hawaii?

Thanks in advance.
 
The only one you've missed is Strategic Airlines, but their J product is a recliner rather than lie-flat:

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If you're wanting a lie-flat option, you'd probably need to go to LAX first. JAL via NRT might be another option, but NRT-HNL-NRT is operated with recliner seats so far as I can tell. I can't find good information on KE and what type of seats they have ICN <-> HNL, but they might be another option too.
 
Thanks. As I thought. It looks like it is LAX first for a Lie Flat product and then onto Hawaii from there.
 
Seriously? You would effectively double your travel time just so you can have a lie-flat seat?

Well, I guess it takes all types...:)
 
I know I'll be boo'd for the 737.... but I'm doing it on Air Pacific. SYD-NAN on the 747 with large recliners and then NAN-HNL on the 737 with the standard J recliners... however it's really not all that far from NAN so I figure it's not a huge loss.
 
My experience in May/June of this year is that the JQ business (formerly *Class) product is very much like QF PE. However, the service is much chirpier and the J status credit earn was very nice:D. I do love a lie-flat seat (who wouldn't?) but was pleased with the JQ option and found it to be good value. The impost of an extra fee for so-called Business Max is pretty rude, though - glad I booked mine under the old moniker.
 
Seriously? You would effectively double your travel time just so you can have a lie-flat seat?

Well, I guess it takes all types...:)

Might as well see LA and Vegas while I'm flyign there :)
 
I'm lucky as JQi flies out of SYD at 6pm in the evening, and 10 hours later, we arrive in HNL at 7am in the morning.

It means folks with WP status gets to feast in the QF F Lounge till we are full (and sick), jump onboard the 332, try and sleep a good 8-9hours (seated upright in Y) before waking up in the morning just in time for the hawaiian sunshine.

Yes its not a flat product but as you mention, QF,NZ,HA and JQ do not offer flat seats unfortunately. Instead of routing to mainland USA, maybe you could route via NRT with QF/JL, I don't know the configurations but I am pretty sure they have flat seats somewhere to HNL.
 
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Yes its not a flat product but as you mention, QF,NZ,HA and JQ do not offer flat seats unfortunately. Instead of routing to mainland USA, maybe you could route via NRT with QF/JL, I don't know the configurations but I am pretty sure they have flat seats somewhere to HNL.

Don't NZ have "cuddle class" or is that only on the West Coast flights?
 
Seriously, the Dreamtime seat "cradle" of the QF 763 in a 1x2x2 config. cr@ps all over the leather Millennium seating of the 2x3x2 JQi 332's.

I would take it any day (and have)!:cool:

It's not lie flat but I find it very comfortable for sleeping.
 
Seriously, the Dreamtime seat "cradle" of the QF 763 in a 1x2x2 config. cr@ps all over the leather Millennium seating of the 2x3x2 JQi 332's.

I would take it any day (and have)!:cool:

It's not lie flat but I find it very comfortable for sleeping.

And the non Mullennium A332s as well I suspect.
 
I used to fly regularly on Jetstar StarClass, and usually got some pretty good deals. The SC earn made it a very worth-while trip. Looks like those days are now over with the "Business Class/Max" rejig. Terrible move - JQ just lost my Hawaiian travel.

And just by the way to the OP - the SYD-HNL trip is often under 9 hours. In fact last trip I did was under 8.5 hours. Trip back is often 10+ though.
 
I am looking to go to Hawaii next year and would prefer to travel the 10+ hour trip on a Lie Flat or Lie Angle Business Product. But short of going to LAX and then over to Honolulu I can't find one.
Which airline did you find that offers lie-flat-seats LAX-HNL for the 5+ hours which that flight takes?
 
It seems fairly likely that QF will switch aircraft on the HNL run to an A330 (which will have Skybeds version 1), though the timing is anybody's guess.

HNL is now the only medium/long haul sector operated by QF which does not have Skybeds in J (the other hold-out for ages with the 767 was MNL, but that recently changed to an A330).

Quite possibly the A330 will be on the HNL route by the time you fly next year, but that's of little use to you at the moment if you want to make your booking soon. Failing that, QF's internationally-configured 767s, with the Dreamtime J seats, are certainly the best of what's currently on offer.
 
It seems fairly likely that QF will switch aircraft on the HNL run to an A330 (which will have Skybeds version 1), though the timing is anybody's guess.

HNL is now the only medium/long haul sector operated by QF which does not have Skybeds in J (the other hold-out for ages with the 767 was MNL, but that recently changed to an A330).

Quite possibly the A330 will be on the HNL route by the time you fly next year, but that's of little use to you at the moment if you want to make your booking soon. Failing that, QF's internationally-configured 767s, with the Dreamtime J seats, are certainly the best of what's currently on offer.

I doubt it, the A330 will be used elsewhere including two going to SIN with JQ, and others taking up the BKK/HKG slack. factor in the poor loads on the route as well.
 
I doubt it, the A330 will be used elsewhere including two going to SIN with JQ, and others taking up the BKK/HKG slack. factor in the poor loads on the route as well.
They'd be the 332's going "elsewhere", not the 333's.

Also, I have come across many a contemporary report that SYD/HNL is very profitable for both Qantas and JQI.
 
They'd be the 332's going "elsewhere", not the 333's.

Also, I have come across many a contemporary report that SYD/HNL is very profitable for both Qantas and JQI.

Still will result in less A333s than now although I do believe it's not unlikely they will be A333s ! And while if may have been profitable in the past, current traffic is terrible and they have strategic also adding capacity.
 
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