15% off online booking -is it included in the website quote or does it come off later

[Holmesy999]

Hi there - I am looking at a singapore krisflyer redemption on a singapore flight sydney ->london one way for two people - my account doesn't have enough points and I'm transferring from american express points. I'm just working out how much to transfer in.

I have read in several places that singapore gives a 15% discount on singapore flights and if you book on the website.

Playing with the search tool I got a cost of "Total miles required 161500 miles" - does this include the 15% off already, or will it be 15% cheaper as I progress with the booking (which I can't do as I haven't got enough points)?

 

[Plutonus]

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You can proceed to the next step (payment page), where it will show you the actual points required. OR you can click on 'display total cost' on the search results page which will show the points with the 15% taken off - which I think you've already done. The prices listed at the top under each column are the points required pre-discount.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

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If in doubt, just take the figures listed in the award chart and take 15% off those.

award chart: http://www.singaporeair.com/pdf/ppsclub_krisflyer/charts/SQMI_OneWayAwardCharts.pdf

 

[citrusb]

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Hi there - I am looking at a singapore krisflyer redemption on a singapore flight sydney ->london one way for two people - my account doesn't have enough points and I'm transferring from american express points. I'm just working out how much to transfer in.

I have read in several places that singapore gives a 15% discount on singapore flights and if you book on the website.

Playing with the search tool I got a cost of "Total miles required 161500 miles" - does this include the 15% off already, or will it be 15% cheaper as I progress with the booking (which I can't do as I haven't got enough points)?

Keyed in your planned Syd- LHR trip one -way for two and 161500 miles is after the discount applied.... also as aready stated, the top of each column shows pre discount points required .... Hope it all works out for you.

 

[get me outta here]

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OK, just to check if you have any comments on this please, hopefully I am on track:

(CBR) - SYD - SIN - CPH - OSL is Zone 9 to Zone 11 = 117.500 x 2 -15% for F/suite. TOTAL ~ 200K SQ points - how many VA points do I need to transfer?

Plus, one s/o allowed in SIN or CPH, wherever.

Does that look 'legal?

I'd need to phone in right - to the Aus number?

How do I work in CBR - SYD sector?

Any comments gratefully rec'd. Thanks

 

[dajop]

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OK, just to check if you have any comments on this please, hopefully I am on track:

(CBR) - SYD - SIN - CPH - OSL is Zone 9 to Zone 11 = 117.500 x 2 -15% for F/suite. TOTAL ~ 200K SQ points - how many VA points do I need to transfer?

OK some comments:

1. OSL is not an SQ destination, so you would have to make a star alliance redemption. This costs 132.5K for SYD-SIN-CPH-OSL. No 15% discount applies for star alliance awards.

2. You can book SYD-SIN-CPH but only over phone as SIN-CPH would be in J. They should offer the 15% discount as it can't be booked online. This is 117,500 -15% in each direction.

3: I'd consider looking at arriving into AMS (the only zone 11 destination that has F) and buying separate ticket or separate star alliance redemption from there. (You're paying F might as well go all the way in F!)

4. At saver rates you can have a single stopover in one direction for free. Extra stopovers will cost $100 each.

 

[get me outta here]

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Thanks for your suggestion of AMS, I would definitely like to go the whole way in R/F!

I'm thinking of July and now that the 777ER is having the F seats reduced by 50%, I guess redemptions will be much harder to get, especially as I have no status at all on SQ?

Also, given that the market is awash with AMEX VA sign on points. So, I'd probably be WL, so is the way to do that book J and WL for F/R?

OK some comments:

1. OSL is not an SQ destination, so you would have to make a star alliance redemption. This costs 132.5K for SYD-SIN-CPH-OSL. No 15% discount applies for star alliance awards.

2. You can book SYD-SIN-CPH but only over phone as SIN-CPH would be in J. They should offer the 15% discount as it can't be booked online. This is 117,500 -15% in each direction.

3: I'd consider looking at arriving into AMS (the only zone 11 destination that has F) and buying separate ticket or separate star alliance redemption from there. (You're paying F might as well go all the way in F!)

4. At saver rates you can have a single stopover in one direction for free. Extra stopovers will cost $100 each.

 

[albatross710]

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Also, given that the market is awash with AMEX VA sign on points. So, I'd probably be WL, so is the way to do that book J and WL for F/R?

There is still quite a few points needed between a sign-on bonus and a F redemption.

If you book and pay for J, then the F/R is an entirely separate booking. To take up the WL if/when it comes through at that time you are 'cancelling' you J booking and redeeming for the F seat. Two different transactions.

I would consider locking in and ticketing the J seats so you can plan the rest of your travel arrangements

Depending upon your miles balance, you may need to do the F/R waitlist before you ticket the J. At the time of creating the waitlist booking you need to have enough miles to successfully complete the booking.

Happy travels.

Alby

 

[get me outta here]

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Thanks Alby. I currently have around 330k VA points, and will WL F/R first if necessary. Will also lock in J as I intend to book the Hurtigruten.

I need think about the most creative way to get F to OSL. AMS on F/R seems the most straight forward.

Assuming I get 'stuck' in J, which is the best aircraft to book for 1 seat?

There is still quite a few points needed between a sign-on bonus and a F redemption.

If you book and pay for J, then the F/R is an entirely separate booking. To take up the WL if/when it comes through at that time you are 'cancelling' you J booking and redeeming for the F seat. Two different transactions.

I would consider locking in and ticketing the J seats so you can plan the rest of your travel arrangements

Depending upon your miles balance, you may need to do the F/R waitlist before you ticket the J. At the time of creating the waitlist booking you need to have enough miles to successfully complete the booking.

Happy travels.

Alby

 

[albatross710]

Re: 15% off online booking -is it included in the website quote or does it come off l

I need think about the most creative way to get F to OSL. AMS on F/R seems the most straight forward.

Don't get strung out seeking out the 15% discount. Sometimes it can be worthwhile to get the telephone assistance and the *A itinerary that exactly meets your needs. The telephone method might help you integrate your intra-europe travel, if you considered OSL as a stopover. I'm not experienced in the scandinavian ports but I have used ZRH & FRA as my SQ 'stopover' with final legs to Milan, Zurich & Manchester even though SQ has direct flights to each of those ports. The 15% can be replacing your Euro fares that you would otherwise be purchasing.

Assuming I get 'stuck' in J, which is the best aircraft to book for 1 seat?

Last year I travelled with Mrs Albatross in SQ R from MEL-ZRH. She is still raving about it. So much so that any redemptions I do from here where I am traveling solo can only at the most be in J. J's not that bad btw.

 

[dajop]

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Albatross, good point re 15% discount, but it's actually closer to 25% discount for travel to AMS, due to different zones for some SQ destinations. All in all, on a return basis, an extra 65,000 KF miles, or 87,000 velocity points will be required for including the extra star alliance segments within Europe.

 

[get me outta here]

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Does it sound like 332K VA points will cover me SYD - SIN - AMS - OSL return with 1 free stopover? I would WL the R/F and book the J as Alby suggests.

That would be J for AMS-OSL-AMS I suppose dajop.

 

[dajop]

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Does it sound like 332K VA points will cover me SYD - SIN - AMS - OSL return with 1 free stopover? I would WL the R/F and book the J as Alby suggests.

That would be J for AMS-OSL-AMS I suppose dajop.

In Krisflyer miles, You do SYD-SIN-xx_-OSL in F return for 265K, which is 358K velocity points. xx_ = any SQ ports, so places like CDG, LHR and ZRH, where SQ fly A380 would be worth a look as transit points. Also other star alliance options, such as TG F are available using this approach.

You could do SYD-SIN-AMS in F (if you get seats) for 200K KF miles = 270 K velocity points. An onward star alliance return flight in J to/from OSL is another 55K KF miles ... therefore only saves 10K KF miles. Might as well choose first option, which gives you much more flexiblity. However, an onward star alliance return flight in Y to/from OSL is 25K, so you get total for 225K KF miles = 303K velocity points ( Although with the fuel surcharges charged on awards intra-Europe, you may well be better off just buying a commercial Y fare instead). These options, obviously are not on one ticket, which means you need to allow time in case of late flights etc. Upside is that you can have stopovers at AMS in both directions if you so desire.

If you have the points, I'd be looking at the 358K velocity points option for maximum flexibility. If not, I'd look at the AMS flight for 270K velocity and look at buying a commercial fare to get to OSL.

Also note, with any of the options, not sure if you are planning one-way or return Hurtigruten, but if only oneway, you could of course "open-jaw" your ticket, and fly back from the point of disembarkation instead of making your own way back to OSL and picking up ticket from there .... (or vice versa).

 

[get me outta here]

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One quick point, are your figures before or after the 15% discount as I'm a bit short on the VA points of 358K (have 332K).

I shall certainly investigate getting back from another point as it's a one way Hurtigruten trip, thanks for pointing that out.

As I don't want any other EU stops, if I need to break up the ticket due to insufficient VA/KF points, I guess I'd use the EU city that's cheapest to OSL, and back from further north in Norway.

In Krisflyer miles, You do SYD-SIN-xx_-OSL in F return for 265K, which is 358K velocity points. xx_ = any SQ ports, so places like CDG, LHR and ZRH, where SQ fly A380 would be worth a look as transit points. Also other star alliance options, such as TG F are available using this approach.

You could do SYD-SIN-AMS in F (if you get seats) for 200K KF miles = 270 K velocity points. An onward star alliance return flight in J to/from OSL is another 55K KF miles ... therefore only saves 10K KF miles. Might as well choose first option, which gives you much more flexiblity. However, an onward star alliance return flight in Y to/from OSL is 25K, so you get total for 225K KF miles = 303K velocity points ( Although with the fuel surcharges charged on awards intra-Europe, you may well be better off just buying a commercial Y fare instead). These options, obviously are not on one ticket, which means you need to allow time in case of late flights etc. Upside is that you can have stopovers at AMS in both directions if you so desire.

If you have the points, I'd be looking at the 358K velocity points option for maximum flexibility. If not, I'd look at the AMS flight for 270K velocity and look at buying a commercial fare to get to OSL.

Also note, with any of the options, not sure if you are planning one-way or return Hurtigruten, but if only oneway, you could of course "open-jaw" your ticket, and fly back from the point of disembarkation instead of making your own way back to OSL and picking up ticket from there .... (or vice versa).

 

[JohnK]

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(CBR) - SYD - SIN - CPH - OSL is Zone 9 to Zone 11 = 117.500 x 2 -15% for F/suite. TOTAL ~ 200K SQ points - how many VA points do I need to transfer?

270,000 Velocity points convert to 200,000 KrisFlyer miles.

 

[dajop]

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One quick point, are your figures before or after the 15% discount as I'm a bit short on the VA points of 358K (have 332K). .

My figures are what you need to pay. In the star alliance award scenario there is no 15% discount. that will take 358K velocity points. Important to remember once you include a star alliance partner in the award, you get no 15% discount. In the SQ only flights to AMS (Zone 11) + buy another fare to Norway that's 270K velocity points, including the 15% discount.

Just to confuse things )), given your points balance and availability, the other option is fly Zone 9 to Zone 12 on SQ metal (LHR, CDG, ZRH, BCN, MUC, FRA, MXP) and purchase a separate cash fare to Norway from that destination. Cost then, including 15% discount is 225.250 KF miles = 304,088 Velocity points.

 

[get me outta here]

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Thanks guys. I'll keep on trying to earn some more points on my cc. Is there any benefit going zones 9-12 over 9-11? There would if I say wanted a stop over in eg CDG, but any other reason?

So, if no stop over, may as well go through AMS, it's closer to Norway? Unless... one of the other cities has better cheaper connections to NO, and access to the suites/R.

My figures are what you need to pay. In the star alliance award scenario there is no 15% discount. that will take 358K velocity points. Important to remember once you include a star alliance partner in the award, you get no 15% discount. In the SQ only flights to AMS (Zone 11) + buy another fare to Norway that's 270K velocity points, including the 15% discount.

Just to confuse things )), given your points balance and availability, the other option is fly Zone 9 to Zone 12 on SQ metal (LHR, CDG, ZRH, BCN, MUC, FRA, MXP) and purchase a separate cash fare to Norway from that destination. Cost then, including 15% discount is 225.250 KF miles = 304,088 Velocity points.