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With AirNZ they did have to wait 24 hrs and I agree it was unsatisfactory but with Singapore they could tell me straight away while I waited on the phone> Singapore is closer to Virgin than Air NZ and I guess that may explain it. I will certianly do it again!

I had a similar experience in 2005 to compare BA Club world with QF and BA First: I agree that First is better but BA Club World - which is now being further upgraded - is terrific. You can sleep lying flat - no matter what QF and others say, angled does not equal flat.

Added to my previous post: in my view you have to take a chance and put the points in to a program such as Virgin Atlantic and trust that you will be able to get award bookings on one of their airlines. 5 on the same flight could be pushing it - but perhaps in different classes it may be...

Dear MAx - join Virgin Atlantic Flying Club (free - online) and transfer points from AMEX to that account. You will need something like 150000 each for Business return Aus-Europe on SIA and 220000 each for First. You make the booking through Virgin in Sydney. I have done just this and booked...

Virgin is an excellent scheme - with low points required, good service and availability on VA or prtners - inc SIA. In addition, the Club at JFK has a great restaurant which I visited last month while flying in SIA on a First Class award through Virgin Atlantic.

Dear Morbo and all: I have just returned from a round-the-world trip flying Singapore Airlines in First Class (Mel-Sin-LAX then JFK-FRA-SIN-MEL) using Virgin Atlantic Points acquired by 1:1 transfer from AMEX. Unlike Qantas, there was seat availability (booked Sep 06, travel Jan 07!), and the...