Shocker of a flight

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True but why do they all save it for the flight?
High density of noisy people around can trigger anxiety. There's a lot going on which can be confusing and this can exacerbate these problems. Outside of that there's stresses with 'returning to reality' back from a break. Traveling on a plane can be an anxiety catalyst too. Individuals who have poor or non existent mental health treatment plans also tend to self medicate. Anticipating the stress of traveling, some people over-drink, or turn to illegally acquired substances to quell their problems. Unfortunately altered states don't equate to effectively treating the problem, and it results in other complex behaviors. In other situations it's the withdrawal of those illicit substances that won't get through security.
And there's the probably unwanted over-answer to your question.
 
Travelling back to Sydney from SIN in J on SQ231 last Friday morning with the 3 kids and wife.
As the aircraft taxis a guy in the front of our section of the cabin (we were in rows 24/25) gets out of his seat and is told firmly to sit down. Does so, but then gets up as the a/c rotates (!) and staggers down the aisle introducing himself to every passenger (including my kids and me). Looked into his eyes and something is clearly amiss - there's nothing there. Alcohol, drugs, medication?
Cabin crew screaming at him to sit down but he keeps going back to the WC area. Not sure how he got back to his seat but once the crew were released the CS approaches him and starts what will become a 2 hour conversation (on and off) with this moron.
I decided to stay awake - past experience tells me dudes like this are not predictable. Also offered to help the FAs if they needed someone to sit on him if required.
Finally they get him quietened down but the same thing happens later during turbulence.
CS (with backup from other crew) eventually decide enough is enough and force him into a seat.
As we disembark I walked past him (resisting the urge to put the boot in......) and notice he's in cuffs.
Meanwhile on the same flight the 6 yo of the couple behind my wife decides to poo his pants (and mose of the seat cover. Crew clean him up and offer the mother a nappy, who's horrified: "He's six - he doesn't need a nappy!". (I beg to differ!). Sure enough, and hour after the cleanup and deodorising process, he does it again. My poor wife was beside herself, and claimed to be suffocating with the stench.
So, yeah, pleasant flight home.........................right up there with the time a farmer next to me dropped an entire pack of butter into my shoe without me noticing - until I put it back on during decent after a 15 hour trip sfrom the US in Y!
I stress these current incidents weren't SQ's fault. They handled things well.
And oh yeah - the coppers were waiting on arrival, but didn't enter the aircraft until we were off.
Have a great day
Peter

wow that would have to be the worst!!!
 
Clearly airlines should have Oxycodone tablets or injections handy.
It would have solved both the running around and poop issues.
Regards,
Renato
 
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Clearly airlines should have Oxycodone tablets or injections handy.
It would have solved both the running around and poop issues.
Regards,
Renato
Oh man. We have enough trouble with people stealing that stuff in hospitals. Having a controlled substance on a plane in a predictable location would be nuts.
 
Oh man. We have enough trouble with people stealing that stuff in hospitals. Having a controlled substance on a plane in a predictable location would be nuts.
Fair enough. Though Morphine would do the trick too.
Cheers,
Renato
 
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You are kind of joking aren’t you?
Yes....... and No.

If someone was running amok as this passenger was and stuffing up our trip, I'd be happy to stick a needle into his neck as often as necessary, while others held him down. I just down feel any empathy to people on a drug induced craze on a public plane.
Cheers,
Renato
 
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Yes....... and No.

If someone was running amok as this passenger was and stuffing up our trip, I'd be happy to stick a needle into his neck as often as necessary, while others held him down. I just down feel any empathy to people on a drug induced craze on a public plane.
Cheers,
Renato

The crew on board would have little or no medical history for the passenger in question. You mention morphine. What if the passenger is allergic to it? You'd potentially kill the passenger.

While the passenger in the OP's case could have been affected - perhaps quite legally - by drugs, the underlying issue could be one of mental health.
 
The crew on board would have little or no medical history for the passenger in question. You mention morphine. What if the passenger is allergic to it? You'd potentially kill the passenger.

While the passenger in the OP's case could have been affected - perhaps quite legally - by drugs, the underlying issue could be one of mental health.
Who's safety is important?

The passenger runs around, plane hits an airpocket, he bounces off the ceiling and breaks my wife's neck on the way down. Or the neck of a child sitting elsewhere.

I would be less than enthralled with the caring concern and the restraint that the crew has shown for the safety and well-being of the druggo or mental nutter.
Regards,
Renato
 
The crew on board would have little or no medical history for the passenger in question. You mention morphine. What if the passenger is allergic to it? You'd potentially kill the passenger.

While the passenger in the OP's case could have been affected - perhaps quite legally - by drugs, the underlying issue could be one of mental health.

Although I see the simplistic and erroneous approach by Renato, I also feel that your position cares for the individual at the risk of the rest of the world.
 
I also feel that your position cares for the individual at the risk of the rest of the world.

No quite. It is the actual risk that needs to be assessed and appropriately dealt with. Not just that another passenger(s) might feel 'uncomfortbale'. There may be circumstances where restraint is appropriate. But de-escalation is probably preferable as firstd attempts at dealing with the matter.
 
Yes....... and No.

If someone was running amok as this passenger was and stuffing up our trip, I'd be happy to stick a needle into his neck as often as necessary, while others held him down. I just down feel any empathy to people on a drug induced craze on a public plane.
Cheers,
Renato

(Grimace) drugs don’t work like you see in the movies. But the drug you are looking for is propofol.
 
Although I see the simplistic and erroneous approach by Renato, I also feel that your position cares for the individual at the risk of the rest of the world.
Well yes but that is the way of the world. That is why victims (and their families if deceased) feel very much aggrieved by our justice system. There is no justice for the victims.
 
The crew on board would have little or no medical history for the passenger in question. You mention morphine. What if the passenger is allergic to it? You'd potentially kill the passenger.

Both my late mother and myself reacted badly to opiates, but unfortunately you don't tend to find out until the first time they're administered - GP came to the house many years ago and gave Mum a morphine injection during a savage multi-day migraine attack. The vomiting afterwards had to be seen to be believed, she nearly had to be admitted to hospital (I have a similar reaction with very severe nausea and vomiting) so the OP certainly wouldn't have wanted THAT added to his woes on this flight!
 
Sounds like an eventful flight. This guy was in business?
 
Sure, I can be sympathetic to someone with mental health issues but a plane isn't the place to be a bleeding heart. If someone is behaving erratically and will not follow direction then they are a danger and I would always expect that decisive action be taken as happened in this case with the passenger being handcuffed. Well done to the crew!
 
Sure, I can be sympathetic to someone with mental health issues but a plane isn't the place to be a bleeding heart. If someone is behaving erratically and will not follow direction then they are a danger and I would always expect that decisive action be taken as happened in this case with the passenger being handcuffed. Well done to the crew!

Well yes, but probably somewhere around the three hour mark into the flight? The crew tried to de-escalate first. Not following a direction does not automatically mean the person is a danger to themselves or other passengers. It would depend on the circumstances. Restraining someone can lead to a whole range of potential issues.
 
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