Best shiraz/cab under $200?

[travelnutjohn]

hey folks
Love my red wines, hate brand snobs, im looking for a few recommendations for whats out there for the best shiraz/cab under $200,

for the record, I love the deep bold bordeauxs from france, I dont like them to acidic as Ifeel it cheapens the taste and like the richness that only comes with quality reds (shiraz/cab) dont like light reds, taste cheap to me
I think in terms of value aus wines are better,
however I am not a the more expensive the better type person,
think grange is stupidly overrated and not that great
I tried (cant rememebr vintage ) chateau margaux and it was one of the best ive had (however its not under $200)

if you are looking for the best based on taste, what do you guys recommend

I am a big fan of most of the rockfords, yalumba signature, bannockburn shiraz

 

[TomVexille]

I'll give you three I like under $200 as taste is completely subjective.

1. Rolf Binder Hanisch
2. Hently Farm Clos Otto
3. Moss Wood Cabernet Sauvignon

 

[Daver6]

Not a brand snob, yet acid in a wine or a lighter reds as they're cheap. Well, stay well clear of Grand Cru red burgundy then That $2k DRC is going to be "cheap" to your tastes

Ok, more seriously, bang for your buck, you can't go past Metala White Label Shiraz Cabernet.

Reading between the lines of your likes and dislikes, I suspect you prefer your big reds with a bit of age. Ie once the acid has softened. Otherwise, anything young that's big like you describe is just going to be an over-ripe fruit bomb, unless that's your thing.

 

[tielec]

It's a hard question to answer, but If you like Bordeaux the closest facsimile from Australia would be Yarra Valley (or maybe Margaret River).

My recommendations:
1. Mt Mary Quintet
2. Yarra Yering Dry Red (No. 1 or 2)
3. Yeringberg Cabernets

Also worth trying (from Margaret River):
1. Woodlands top level Cabernet (name changes)
2. Cullen Diana Madeline
3. Mosswood Cabernet (dropped off IMO but indisputably a contender)
4. Vasse Felix Tom Cullity

None of these is cheap though, and all have strong brands, so they are hardly undiscovered gems.

 

[afro]

For shiraz, south australia

Kay brothers block 6 and Amery Vineyards Hillside Shiraz
Standish wines(all)
Sami Odi(all)
Head wines, brunette , blonde , redhead shiraz.

Here's some hunter shiraz, this region is known as high acidity but alot of them nowadays are more balance and less noticeable.

Mount pleasant rosehill, op&oh. The 4 single vineyard 1921,1880,1946 and 1965 shiraz only made in good vintages(2013,2014,2017).

Meerea park alexander munro shiraz , the only shiraz from the winery release 5(or more) years after its been harvested.

For cabs. the only one i really buy constantly

Wynns black label and john riddoch.
Blue poles reserve cab franc and merlot(both straight)

since you asked for under $200, i won't name other cheaper options. Most of the wines i mentioned here are over $45rrp.

 

[Cossie]

Agree with the above 2 posts, if you want a Shiraz made in an Italian style, look for Koltz "The Pagan", from Blewitt Springs in S.A.

Koltz Wines

 

[Deleted member]

It's a hard question to answer, but If you like Bordeaux the closest facsimile from Australia would be Yarra Valley (or maybe Margaret River).

My recommendations:
1. Mt Mary Quintet
2. Yarra Yering Dry Red (No. 1 or 2)
3. Yeringberg Cabernets

Also worth trying (from Margaret River):
1. Woodlands top level Cabernet (name changes)
2. Cullen Diana Madeline
3. Mosswood Cabernet (dropped off IMO but indisputably a contender)
4. Vasse Felix Tom Cullity

None of these is cheap though, and all have strong brands, so they are hardly undiscovered gems.

I Love Bordeaux wines as well,But I have found that Margret River Cabernet is something to behold.
my favorites are :

• Vasse Felix
• Serie Luminosa from Stella Bella
• Suckfizzle also from Stella Bella

 

[tgh]

Interesting thread…..