Does cyber stalking bother you?

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I noticed this news report on Google tracking us even when we say no!

Well I have news for them, I have huge blank spots where even Google can't find me, but for all the worth and, dare I say ... need, that we place on these intrusive companies, do you feel at all bothered or intimidated by it?
 
I guess it is one of those things. It is the unknown quantity about what is happening to your data which is the scariest element. Profiling is something I'm not entirely comfortable with, but the concerns about traceability and the accessibility of that data is something that those in business should be a lot more mindful of if they are concerned about industrial espionage. With this information being stored without your knowledge and explicit consent even though you have tried to take measures to limit recording such data, I think is a very serious concern.
 
It probably should bother me, but it doesn't, I simply try to uncouple myself from companies who have bad data policies. I seldom use Facebook and have uninstalled their apps on my devices for instance.

I find it funny though, considering Google has a motto of not being evil, yet they hoard everyone's data to the extremes it's hard not to see them as being evil: Don't be evil - Wikipedia
 
I don't do Facebook/twitter etc precisely because I don't trust them to collect and spray my info everywhere - after all, they are specifically designed for 'sharing'.

But I confess I have run up the white flag with respect to Google. Just too much useful stuff there; if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I clamp the privacy settings as much as possible, but I 'know' that its still watching me, following me and storing me away in its databases. But then again, I don't really care if everything about me is hacked and posted on the internet (see discussion on My Health Record :) ). And, being a family historian, my ancestors might like to know what I did every day, in 50 years time. :rolleyes:
 
I clamp the privacy settings as much as possible, but I 'know' that its still watching me, following me and storing me away in its databases.
I do also, and if there were a single button or app that said "stop tracking me" I'd use it.

BUT...I remember the time I was stuck at a domestic airport one evening and Google notified me that my flight was cancelled before the airline/airport did so I was able to get to the counter for a flight change before everyone else did...and another time I booked tickets to a show interstate for March (in January), then booked flights and accommodation - everything was automatically added to my Google calendar except the show. When I clicked around to see why, the show tickets were for a date 14 months away, not 2 months - so it does have its uses

I turn off ads and social media tracking in my browser (Facebook tracks you even if you've never had an account - every page that has a FB Like icon tracks you), block ads on my phone system wide, and use Duck Duck Go

And I don't even consider myself paranoid, this stuff is just common sense IMO
 
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Turn the phone off for a few hours and let them wonder how you got from A to B.....
Oh :cool: we (are supposed to) do that when we get on a plane

Just wandering
Fred
 
Turn the phone off for a few hours and let them wonder how you got from A to B.....
Oh :cool: we (are supposed to) do that when we get on a plane

Just wandering
Fred

Don't worry, they already knew that you where flying from MEL-BNE today since you'd booked your flights online. In fact they would have been more surprised if your phone didn't go dark for 3 hours and 20 minutes (since they also knew your plane was delayed) :p
 
I think they removed the reference to evil from their motto.... Anyway, any time a corporation says anything, we all know it’s doing the opposite...which makes their original motto a perfect one for all of big business.
 
I think they removed the reference to evil from their motto.... Anyway, any time a corporation says anything, we all know it’s doing the opposite...which makes their original motto a perfect one for all of big business.

They sure did, back around May. It was about the same time that google employees' were wondering why google was working on a US Defense contract. (Project Maven, basically using machine learning for war)

To be honest the phrase "don't be evil" was more a "don't be evil, unless that gets in the way"
 
I noticed this news report on Google tracking us even when we say no!

Well I have news for them, I have huge blank spots where even Google can't find me, but for all the worth and, dare I say ... need, that we place on these intrusive companies, do you feel at all bothered or intimidated by it?

The whole big brother aspect of the internet and social media bothers me a lot.
AFF is about all I am happy to participate in these days. Google is a little difficult to escape, so I may have to eventually go off grid completely.
 
I am surprised about the amount of info some people put on AFF - I'm sure if you were so inclined and had the time and energy you could stalk them more
 
Timely column from the 'barefoot investor' this week. Here's an excerpt (check the second last sentence):


Barbie and the Rocker

Let me tell you about a 59-year-old woman who makes billions of dollars a year.

Her name is Barbie, and, after years of being in the (toy) doghouse, she’s suddenly cool again. Last week toy conglomerate Mattel reported a 12% rise in sales of the buxom blonde:

“Mattel is trying to lure customers back by recasting the toy’s image to play up not only the nostalgia but a newer notion: they’re beneficial to child development”, says the Washington Post.

Crikey.

When I was a kid, all Barbie did was promote an unrealistic body image.

(Doctors have said that if Barbie were real she’d only have room for half a liver and a few inches of intestine. Yet apparently there is room for a much bigger brain.)

Okay so Mattel hasn’t upgraded her liver, intestines or brain … but they have added a touch of tech.

Enter Hello Barbie.

Here’s how Mattel describes the latest round of plastic surgery they’ve performed on the world’s favourite rake-thin, six-foot-tall, FF-breasted doll:

“The number one thing girls have asked for, is to have a conversation with Barbie. Well, using WiFi and speech recognition technology … now they can! Girls want to learn, tell stories and make friends … and for the first time Barbie recognises what girls are saying, and can respond!”

Uh-huh.

Here’s what’s really happening:

“A microphone records little girls’ private conversations. It transmits those conversations to cloud servers where they are analysed by algorithms and are listened to by employees of Mattel and its technology partner, Toy Talk, and they are shared with unnamed third parties”, says Susan Linn, from Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood.

Creepy.

“Hello Barbie asks many questions that would elicit information about a child, her interests, and her family, which could be of great value to advertisers”, says Angela Campbell, Director of Communication at Georgetown Law School.

Clearly this is outrageous.

We need to protect our vulnerable little children from a conglomerate that is openly spying on them.

They’re kids, for goodness’ sake!

I mean they’re not old enough to understand the long-term ramifications of giving up their privacy, and having their data sold and later used against them. As adults we obviously wouldn’t fall for that, right?

Wait a second …

Yes, some of the fastest-selling tech gadgets on the planet right now are Amazon Alexa and Google Home ‒ voice-activated speakers that are constantly listening in on our conversations. Oh, and then there’s the cute-looking Alexa Alarm Clock, which has an in-built camera and microphone … in your bedroom?!

Barbie may be off her rocker, but we’re all being played like toys by big tech conglomerates.

 
I think they removed the reference to evil from their motto.... Anyway, any time a corporation says anything, we all know it’s doing the opposite...which makes their original motto a perfect one for all of big business.

Actually was removed from their code of conduct.
 
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Yes, some of the fastest-selling tech gadgets on the planet right now are Amazon Alexa and Google Home ‒ voice-activated speakers that are constantly listening in on our conversations. Oh, and then there’s the cute-looking Alexa Alarm Clock, which has an in-built camera and microphone … in your bedroom?!

Barbie may be off her rocker, but we’re all being played like toys by big tech conglomerates.


This is a part truth, yes both Alexa and Home are constantly monitoring your speech, but they are listening for keywords which allows them to activate. Keyword processing is much easier and can be done on a relatively inexpensive processor without any back end servers. Only once it hears the keyword will it go to amazon or google servers with the conversation and I believe about 3 seconds of sound from before the keyword.

I'm not actually against targeted advertising. I don't mind seeing ad's for product's that I could be interested in whilst avoiding the worst of the screaming rug salesmen who are always going out of business. I guess I would be more concerned if companies started discriminating against customers based on non-relevant factors, for example if an insurance company increased my premiums because I like to wear red shirts. As far as I know, no insurer has actually started going down that route, and thanks to companies like Cambridge Analytica I suspect it'll be a while before that overtly happens
 
I may have to eventually go off grid completely.
Now you're talking! I've got +1 convinced one day I'll fly to PNG ... and stay!

And in the vein of this thread, I received some nice treatment today. Upgrade to a suite, a nice antipasto plate, so big, it filled me, my favourite gin and tonic and later I received a text informing me my bar snack favourite (pork belly) had been made available, just for me! Who said OnQ doesn't know all.
 
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I'm extremely worried but powerless to stop it. I never thought that Nineteen Eighty-Four would ever become our reality....
 
I try and stay away from most of the usual suspects. If only I could tear myself away from the internet and stop hanging around travel forums ;)
 
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I fear the future of all this info gathering, add-targetting, etc, but for now it is still not scary.

I once got an email from flight centre or the bank or whoever, advising me to "get out of my comfort zone and TRAVEL!" - the destination they were flogging was something like Bali. I was doing about 400,000km a year at the time.........
 
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