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Originally Posted by smit0847 For sleeping, yes - their seat is excellent. For everything else, who knows - they're an airline with a bad reputation that is rapidly, rapidly improving. ...
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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Quote Originally Posted by smit0847 View Post
    For sleeping, yes - their seat is excellent. For everything else, who knows - they're an airline with a bad reputation that is rapidly, rapidly improving.

    Do Swiss fly into Singapore? Their J product looks pretty good.
    I finally found a recent J class review for CA the other day (link to follow) - the seat is obviously a plus but the catering, service etc seemed to be quite poor. I have my dad flying FRA-PEK-MEL on CA over Xmas (LifeMiles redemption) so I might find out more - although as his first ever J class experience I'm sure he'll be happy regardless. My biggest concern is around the complex transit procedures at both PEK & PVG (where CA177 makes a 'technical stop') - finding it very difficult to get reliable info on this...but it's complicated!!

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Well LX does have a 343 flying between ZRH and SIN, but only Y seats are bookable on the 9/6/13....

    I am flying LX from ZRH to YUL earlier in the itinerary so that will be my first chance to sample J on them...

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Here's the link to the recent CA 77W J report...I think the product on the A330 between China & Aus is much the same:

    Flight Review: Air China 777-300ER Business Class Beijing-Los Angeles | The Points Guy

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Quote Originally Posted by bcworld View Post
    Here's the link to the recent CA 77W J report...I think the product on the A330 between China & Aus is much the same:

    Flight Review: Air China 777-300ER Business Class Beijing-Los Angeles | The Points Guy
    Because all of the Asian-bound TK flights leave IST at midnight, we have the option of either waiting in SIN or BKK for 10+ hours (during the day), or flying via China and then taking an additional 'free' flight down to SIN or BKK to then get home to MEL.

    I may be in the minority but as I hate everything about BKK except for the airport, and have no desire to go on a bus tour of SIN I would actually prefer to spend the downtime trying out an airline I have never flown before (even if its not brilliant - its still J) on a short-ish Asian route.

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    There is some logic to that smitty...

    I've never averse to the odd extra flight...

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Quote Originally Posted by bcworld View Post
    Here's the link to the recent CA 77W J report...I think the product on the A330 between China & Aus is much the same:

    Flight Review: Air China 777-300ER Business Class Beijing-Los Angeles | The Points Guy
    Air China is in the process of converting their A330 from angled lie flats to fully flat. I thought on their website they said '2013' for that to be completed. Until that time I guess there might always be the possibility of an aircraft substitution with angled lie flats.

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Grrr... I've just seen that TK have upgraded half their A330s to full-flat J seats.

    Is there anyway of knowing whether the planes they usually put on IST-SIN are the new or old config?

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    Re: US Dividend Miles Buy/Gift Miles 100% bonus - Cheap way for F/J *A Awards

    Quote Originally Posted by smit0847 View Post
    Grrr... I've just seen that TK have upgraded half their A330s to full-flat J seats.

    Is there anyway of knowing whether the planes they usually put on IST-SIN are the new or old config?
    Yes, by getting on to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by smit0847 View Post
    Grrr... I've just seen that TK have upgraded half their A330s to full-flat J seats.

    Is there anyway of knowing whether the planes they usually put on IST-SIN are the new or old config?
    I looked into this before. I *think* that it's something like if the aircraft is listed as A330 it has the newer cabin, or A333 = older cabin...same way that TG does it.

    Something else that may be useful to the many of us that transit BKK is that OS have announced that they are refitting all their long haul business cabins with the same product as LX...to be completed by May 2013 I think. They have a calendar where you can check if you are scheduled on the new J class prior to all aircraft being refitted. Availability BKK-VIE seems OK.

    Austrian Business Class

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcworld View Post
    I looked into this before. I *think* that it's something like if the aircraft is listed as A330 it has the newer cabin, or A333 = older cabin...same way that TG does it.

    Something else that may be useful to the many of us that transit BKK is that OS have announced that they are refitting all their long haul business cabins with the same product as LX...to be completed by May 2013 I think. They have a calendar where you can check if you are scheduled on the new J class prior to all aircraft being refitted. Availability BKK-VIE seems OK.

    Austrian Business Class
    Thanks BC - very helpful once again!

    I searched the dates on the TK website - it's listed as 'A330-300'. Would that be the old config?

    I saw that new Austrian J website last week - looks very, very nice and I'd be keen to try it even if I dont understand their fascination with triangular plates!
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