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Congrats to the litigants! I recall this case from a few years ago, and really wanted them to win. I'm not a big fan of TA's, but the practice of ...
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    Congrats to the litigants!

    I recall this case from a few years ago, and really wanted them to win. I'm not a big fan of TA's, but the practice of making fuel surcharges a non-operating expense is a joke.


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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    I am not 100% sure on this. It only changes how TAs are remunerated not the underlying YQ system. This is great for the TAs but does mean that QF has to find $80M from somewhere - and we all know who that will be...
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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    Quote Originally Posted by simongr View Post
    I am not 100% sure on this. It only changes how TAs are remunerated not the underlying YQ system. This is great for the TAs but does mean that QF has to find $80M from somewhere - and we all know who that will be...
    I welcome the decision but I entirely agree with your sentiments.Costs up= higher ticket prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drron View Post
    I welcome the decision but I entirely agree with your sentiments.Costs up= higher ticket prices.
    More specifically, all other things being equal, costs the same, commissions up.

    However, things won't be equal and I think the airlines are more likely to try to squeeze the TA's even more after this.

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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    Thats good news may they learn good lesson from this .


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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    Quote Originally Posted by simongr View Post
    I am not 100% sure on this. It only changes how TAs are remunerated not the underlying YQ system. This is great for the TAs but does mean that QF has to find $80M from somewhere - and we all know who that will be...
    I agree that it's likely that the $$$ will have to be found elsewhere. But my reasoning as to why it is so good, is that it removes a good proportion of commercial sense to have fuel fines. If they're paying commission on them to TA's, you may well see them being rolled back into the fare etc.

    They are a pita to calculate for all concerned, and I'm sure there doesn't need to be too much justification to roll them back in. (Of course redemption tickets and staff travel are still cash cows with no comission... so perhaps it's dreaming that anything positive to travellers (who don't use TAs) will happen. If you do use a TA, perhaps they will lower their fees (due to more commission) or be able to offer larger discounts.


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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    It seems that Qantas went off to the High Court with this one, and lost


    QANTS Airways Ltd may be forced to pay back millions of dollars in commissions to travel agents after it failed in a bid to overturn a Federal Court ruling.

    The High Court today dismissed an application by the national carrier to challenge a May 4 Federal Court ruling relating to commissions on fuel surcharges.
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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    As a bit of a postscript to this, from yesterday Qantas began paying base commission on fuel surcharges. Now to see if other airlines follow.
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    Re: Bad news for QF, great news for TA's

    From Travel Tofay.
    http://www.travelweekly.com.au/getat...2946a/pdf.aspx

    Cathay Pacific, British Airways
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    to follow the move by Qantas last
    night and finally start paying
    commission on fuel surcharges
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    Given CX and SQ just announced fuel surcharge increases, they should


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