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Originally Posted by Mal Qantas doesn't want to tell us what it is, lest we hold them to it! Exactly my point, and suspect they will tweak with them as ...
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    Re: Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes - Online NOW!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal View Post
    Qantas doesn't want to tell us what it is, lest we hold them to it!
    Exactly my point, and suspect they will tweak with them as they see fit, and of course that is their right to, but I will certainly be investigating other credit card award schemes as I can only see this is going to lead to the demise of the Classic award eventually

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    Re: Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes - Online NOW!!

    There was a short segment on Today Tonight - Clifford from AFF gave a short quote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by futaris View Post
    There was a short segment on Today Tonight - Clifford from AFF gave a short quote...
    ... which was as per the comments in print. I actually thought he was very reserved considering the sky is falling attitude of a few others around the place.

    n.b. This is from one who has just logged on and has not really digested any of this other than reading through this thread. I'll reserve judgment for now though I have to say it does not look good.
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    Re: Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes - Online NOW!!

    I think it's exactly as predicted... I'm honestly not sure what all the caffuffle (sp?) is about?

    We knew AnySeat would be costly... why is everyone so surprised?

    Booking well into the future is not THAT much more costly. The advantage is any seat and the trade off is more points. What's the big deal?

    The 2.4m or 1.7m seats are obviously a small proportion of seats based on limited availability and the potential for Qantas to sell that seat and make a large profit off it (F and J class).

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    I just can't see sense in some of the moves. Let's see.. a flight from Perth to Alice Springs via Bris.. well *$850 or 203,000 points..

    Why on earth would someone use points for that?

    I want some of what QF are smoking..

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    Re: Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes - Online NOW!!

    Just found some good value AnySeat Redemptions:

    MEL-LHR-MEL on QF009 5/11 and QF030 18/11 in Y
    Total Points required: 190,597. (OR 128,000 + $678.88)

    Compare that to "Classic" awards, same flights, same days:
    128,000 points + $691.17

    I think that actually makes AnySeat cheaper!

    On the downside, the booking engine now doesn't let you preview the taxes and charges if you don't have enough points to complete the booking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambbbam2 View Post
    Why on earth would someone use points for that?
    They wouldn't, and that's the point. QF know that as a plane fills up, fares increase. With AnySeat, the same has to happen otherwise QF miss out on the nice fares being paid for the last seats to be filled. And if somebody wants to pay the 200k for a short flight then obviously QF are happy to accept that. But they make the person burn lots of points in return - for the loss of the nice $$ fare QF would have otherwise got.

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    Re: Qantas Frequent Flyer Changes - Online NOW!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
    I think it's exactly as predicted... I'm honestly not sure what all the caffuffle (sp?) is about?

    We knew AnySeat would be costly... why is everyone so surprised?

    Booking well into the future is not THAT much more costly. The advantage is any seat and the trade off is more points. What's the big deal?

    The 2.4m or 1.7m seats are obviously a small proportion of seats based on limited availability and the potential for Qantas to sell that seat and make a large profit off it (F and J class).
    I think it is the degree of costliness of the awards that people are crying out for (some people that is) that has caused consternation.

    I think people were expecting 200%-300% but 800% for some is the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
    They wouldn't, and that's the point. QF know that as a plane fills up, fares increase. With AnySeat, the same has to happen otherwise QF miss out on the nice fares being paid for the last seats to be filled. And if somebody wants to pay the 200k for a short flight then obviously QF are happy to accept that. But they make the person burn lots of points in return - for the loss of the nice $$ fare QF would have otherwise got.
    Harpoon,

    I have to ask this.

    Do you work for QF FF
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    Quote Originally Posted by straitman View Post
    Harpoon,

    I have to ask this.

    Do you work for QF FF
    No, I wish.

    But seriously, I'm honestly not sure what the fuss is about. The system seems "logical' at the very least to me. Sure it's a bit rediculous to expect 2.4m points for some fares, but SURELY that is just QF effectively saying "hey buddy, this seat isn't really redeemable, but if you wanna burn 2.4m points hey it's all yours". And then QF redeem the cost of that seat because that QFF member is 2.4m points poorer and cant redeem them later on.

    Some of the comments from contributers in this very thread sound to me like "every seat should be a cheap award fare and I should be able to go any day any flight" which is simply nonsense and would send QF broke.

    As I said, it all seems quite logical in my head.

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