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Qantas delays flights after airspace closure | The Courier-Mail QANTAS has postponed all its flights into and out of Perth airport for a three-hour period from 10pm (AEDT) tonight, the ...
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    Qantas delays flights after airspace closure | The Courier-Mail

    QANTAS has postponed all its flights into and out of Perth airport for a three-hour period from 10pm (AEDT) tonight, the airline's chief pilot said.
    A number of air traffic controllers called in sick, leaving the control tower unmanned for several hours, Air Services Australia spokesman Bryan Nicholson said.

    Qantas chief pilot Captain Chris Manning said the postponements, between 10pm and 1am (AEDT) were due to safety concerns prompted by the closure of the airspace in the Perth terminal area by air traffic controllers.
    "Qantas had deemed it unsafe to operate in this area due the downgrading of controlled air space which would impact critical ascent and descent profiles," Captain Manning said.
    "While we regret the inconvenience to our passengers, Qantas always puts safety first," he said.
    Mr Nicholson said pilots entering and leaving the air space would be self-monitoring the air space during this time. He was aware Qantas had postponed its flights, but said he knew of no other airline doing the same.
    When this happens to Qantas provide food or prewarning to passengers affected? Seems to be happening alot lately and I'm sure more will follow in the future.


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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

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    When this happens to Qantas provide food or prewarning to passengers affected? Seems to be happening alot lately and I'm sure more will follow in the future.
    I would imagine that it would have affected only a handful of flights such as the red-eyes out of Perth (and the incoming operating aircraft of those). I would think they would treat it like any other delay. Given the timing of it, I would think they would pre-warn passengers as much as possible, but I imagine many would have turned up to the airport oblivious to the delay.

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

    Just got back from PER Dom, the line was insane for bag drop (it went right out the terminal!).

    Which begs me the question, I have QP.. even though I'm not flying, could I have taken her into the QP bagdrop line with me and played ignorance? "Oh I didn't know I had to be flying too, but she is my partner after all"

    To clarify, her = SWMBO, who does not have any status.

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

    I don't begrudge Qantas for rescheduling the flights if they didn't feel it was safe to travel. (Although, aren't there many other non-controlled airspace parts of Australia? I suppose not over and around a capital city airport though!)

    I doubt the decision was made with enough time to inform all affected pax before arriving at the airport, except those subscribed to the Qantas SMS service and those who looked at expected flight delays.

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

    Quote Originally Posted by Flashware
    ... Which begs me the question, I have QP.. even though I'm not flying, could I have taken her into the QP bagdrop line with me and played ignorance? "Oh I didn't know I had to be flying too, but she is my partner after all"

    To clarify, her = SWMBO, who does not have any status.
    In general, PAX checking in together can use the line for the higher status PAX.

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    Arrived in BNE 8:15pm last night to a similar issue; all flights should have departed, but three flights to PER (2 x QF, 1 JQ) had all been rescheduled to depart 10pm.

    Quick Browse on AFF/FT, a Bluetounge and I was off ...

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

    I'm curious to know how an airport the size of Perth would function during this time. Is it up to pilots to just get on the blower and say "Watch out, I'm using the runway now,"? I mean, that might work for a small airport, but Perth seems entirely too large for that.

    It was during one of the really busy periods at Perth as well, when a heap of flights are heading out for East coast cities.

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

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    I'm curious to know how an airport the size of Perth would function during this time.
    Someone else more technical should give a better answer, but my understanding that there are multiple ATC staff working at one time in different areas. (eg one/two/several have control over the runways, others control take-offs, other control landings, same for a certain section of the sky etc.

    So they were most likely still working - just that pilots were not being controlled fully on approach.

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    Re: Qantas delays flights in Perth

    Just watched a story about this on ABC, they said that the problem had occured because the one controller who was rostered on had called in sick. The Union that represents controllers also commented that Air Services Australia was just cutting corners by not scheduling two controllers on at nights.

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    I also heard that Qantas is thinking about installing musical horns (that play "I still call Australia Home") and flashing red lights on their flights that fly into Perth so that they can warn other planes that they are about to land, take off and enter into certain airspace. Apparently this is more reliable at certain times of the day when controller's have sick days

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