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Originally Posted by opusman Unless you have something that saturates the air around you with bleach for the duration of the entire flight, then such a thing is impossible. Vaccinations ...
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by opusman View Post
    Unless you have something that saturates the air around you with bleach for the duration of the entire flight, then such a thing is impossible.

    Vaccinations against influenza however are cheap and easily obtainable, and actually work.
    opusman...believe this or not but my Dr ties me down and won't issue a medical certificate to fly until I have had my flu shot.

    So to the OP, get a flu shot weeks or a month before you fly. That is, if you aren't allergic to flu shots.

    happy flying
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnK View Post
    Placebos do work. Belief is a strange healer that science cannot explain.
    Yes, but placebos can only go so far in dealing with viruses. Down at the molecular level, it doesn't really matter what the high command is thinking.

    On a somewhat related note, science fiction often includes time travel as a theme. I love the Back to the Future movies, but in reality, Marty McFly and Doc Brown would have carried a load of evolved viruses from 1985 with them to which the folk in 1955 would not have developed any immunity. Thirty years of influenza viruses would most likely put most of Hill Valley in either the hospital or the cemetery.

    Likewise, the two time travellers might succumb to some of the still common diseases that have been eliminated in 1985.

    Remember pandemics such as the Hong Kong flu from 1968, and the much earlier "Spanish" Influenza, which killed at least three percent of the total human population. With air travel all but ubiquitious nowadays, conventional methods of quarantine are less effective. By the time a new strain is identified, it is quite possible to have spread around the globe.

    Airliners are really just sealed containers full of people all breathing the same air. A sneeze can infect multiple people, who can spread the infection on their next flight and on and on.

    Getting back to anecdotal evidence, but a hallmark of my RTW and other trips is that I almost invariably catch some virus along the way. I'd love for there to be some universal preventative as suggested above, but this does not seem to be the case.
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by opusman View Post
    I would have been disappointed if you hadn't chimed in to support the woo-woo JohnK!
    Why say that when there are studies upon studies of people's health improving believing they are receiving ground breaking medicine but in fact are receiving placebos instead. Over the years I have been asked to participate in some of these studies thanks to my auto-immune issues but I have kindly refused thanks to the uncertainty of not knowing which you'll receive.

    Regarding my wife at times she struggles to breathe and feels like passing out but those menthol inhalers assist.

    But what would I know?
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Heres another article:
    Influenza virus transmission

    its not only inhaling virus laden aerosol, but touching contaminated surfaces and direct contact with infected person.

    A person may be infectious before they show symptoms. So the person who isnt coughing/sneezing sitting next to you may already be infectious

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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    If this placebo is so good then why isn't everyone given a dose of placebo daily. Compulsory placebos for everyone!

    (to paraphrase Kochy)
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by opusman View Post
    If this placebo is so good then why isn't everyone given a dose of placebo daily. Compulsory placebos for everyone!

    (to paraphrase Kochy)
    Simple. Placebos have different effects on different people.
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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    There is a spray called Coldzyme which supposedly protects against colds. Don't know if it helps preventing flu but for protection against colds and soar throat I find it very effective. You're supposed to use it the moment you feel the first indications of a cold and I would guess it has saved me from developing a cold at multiple occations. It's based on some form av enzyme extracted from fishes, and although it sounds a bit funky, there some serious science behind it.

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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncrate View Post
    There is a spray called Coldzyme which supposedly protects against colds. Don't know if it helps preventing flu but for protection against colds and soar throat I find it very effective. You're supposed to use it the moment you feel the first indications of a cold and I would guess it has saved me from developing a cold at multiple occations. It's based on some form av enzyme extracted from fishes, and although it sounds a bit funky, there some serious science behind it.
    I would think that they missing a pretty significant marketing opportunity if they have compelling scientific evidence proving their product is able to cure the common cold. Unless it is the same science proving the efficacy of echinacea in the treatment of the common cold - exactly as effective as a placebo.

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    Re: Spray for protecting against flu from other passengers

    Quote Originally Posted by Pierre_a View Post
    I would think that they missing a pretty significant marketing opportunity if they have compelling scientific evidence proving their product is able to cure the common cold. Unless it is the same science proving the efficacy of echinacea in the treatment of the common cold - exactly as effective as a placebo.
    Maybe so.. Maybe not.. Apparently Coldzyme seems to have the same active ingredient as Vicks First Defence (which I mentioned earlier in the thread). The active ingredient appears to be Carrageenan and the trials (also quoted) are double blind (which are designed to measure the difference between a placebo and alternative).

    Of course we should be skeptical but we should also be open to the science that these might actually make a difference! Current science does not know everything! Otherwise we should stop investing in science.

    Personally, avoiding or reducing the duration of a cold or other virus after a long flight is worth a bit of experimentation. I respect those who would rather rely on 'current knowledge' and commiserations if that means they catch a cold

    edit: and of course doctors know everything and drug companies want you to find a cure so that they don't need to sell you more drugs lol
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    But the trials showed that there was a reduction in the duration of symptoms.It did not prevent infection which is what the OP wanted.

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