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I have been looking at RTW tickets and found that the *A and OW tickets seem expensive for a limited stop itinerary.
I have however come across a couple of fares on a number of online travel sites which appear to be either LH or LX and a mixture of *A and OW airlines (i.e. AC, QF, UA, SQ, CX, TH) on restricted routes. For a price of around $AUD2300 (inc tax) it looks like I can fly SYD/YVR on AC, YVR/LHR (via FRA) on LH, LHR/SIN (via FRA or Munich) on LH and SIN/BNE on SQ.
Just wondering if anyone has used this fare and if it is possible to get hold of the fare rules to see if I can use flights operated by LX or SQ but carry a LH code-share.
Seems like a good price, compared with $3700 as per *A RTW?
Its an awesome fare for the $$, i've sold it thousands of times during my years in the industry.
Generally you can use SQ on the SIN-AU vv. leg, but you definately cannot use the LH codeshare on SQ metal between SIN-FRA vv.
Not sure about the LX sector but I do have access to the rules, will look them up and attempt to post if possible.
Just be aware of the change/cancellation rules, on their cheapest fare it's generally non-refundable so make sure you read everything through before booking.
TG
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Here you go, if you need help decifering them let me know.
Just be aware that LH has 3-4 different fare levels on this type of fare and each on comes with their own slight differences in rules so read it all carefully before booking.
TG
ROUTING:
VALID LH/AC/CA/CX/UA/QF/SA/LH/MU/VS
OPERATED SERVICES ONLY - RT/OJ
ADL/BNE/MEL/PER/SYD-SIN V.V. - LH*/SQ
OPERATED
BNE/MEL/PER/SYD-BKK V.V. - LH*/TG
OPERATED
MEL-SYD-LAX V.V. - LH*/UA
OPERATED
SYD-SFO V.V. - LH*
SYD-YVR V.V. - AC OPERATED
MEL/SYD-SHA/BJS V.V. - CA OPERATED
ADL/BNE/MEL/PER/SYD-HKG V.V. - CX
OPERATED
MEL/SFO VIA SYD V.V. - UA OPERATED
BNE/MEL/PER/SYD-HKG V.V. - QF OPERATED
SDL/BNE/MEL/PER/SYD-SIN V.V. - QF
OPERATED
PER/SYD-TYO V.V. - QF OPERATED
SYD-BKK V.V. - QF OPERATED
SYD-JNB V.V. - QF OPERATED
SYD-BUE V.V. - QF OPERATED
SYD-SHA V.V. - QF OPERATED
BNE/MEL/SYD AND LAX AND SYD/SFO V.V.
- QF OPERATED
PER-JNB V.V. - SA OPERATED
SYD-HKG V.V. - VS OPERATED
SYD/MEL-SHA V.V. - MU OPERATED
ASIA/JNB AND FRA/MUC V.V. - LH OPERATED
NORTH AMERICA AND DUS/FRA/MUC V.V.
- LH OPERATED
SOUTH AMERICA AND FRA/MUC V.V.
- LH OPERATED
NOTE: LH* - CODESHARE FLIGHT
1.LH OPERATED AND CODESHARE FLTS TO/FROM
AND BTWN DESIGNATED POINTS IN EUROPE.
NOTE: DESIGNATED POINTS IN EUROPE ARE
SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE.
PERMITTED AT PAX OWN EXPENSE:
1.BETWEEN LAX SFO YVR AND ANY LH ONLINE
POINT IN NORTH AMERICA.
2.BETWEEN BJS/BKK/HKG/SIN/SHA/TYO AND LH
ONLINE POINTS IN ASIA. EXCL INDIAN
SUBC.
3.BETWEEN BUE AND LH ONLINE POINTS IN
SOUTH AMERICA
4.WITHIN EUROPE.
CODESHARE:
LH OPERTAED AND CODESHARE FLIGHTS TO/FROM
AND BETWEEN DESIGNATED POINTS IN EUROPE.
NOTE: DESIGNATED POINTS IN EUROPE ARE
SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE.
PERMITTED ONLY:
BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND BKK/SIN/LAX/SFO
WITHIN EUROPE - AP/QI/MS/TK OPERATED
FLIGHTS AS LH CODESHARE NOT PERMITTE
CHANGES:
DATE AND ROUTING CHANGES FOC PROVIDED
WITHIN FARE VALIDITY EXCEPT W CLASS:
EUR100 INCL GST AT BSR FOR ALL DATE/
ROUTING. REASSESSES TAXES ACCORDING TO
DATE OF REISSUE.
REFER TO FEES AND SURCHARGES FOR TICKET
CENTRE FEES.
STOPOVERS:
1 STOPOVER FREE PER DIRECTION UNLIMITED
STOPOVERS AT AUD100 -GROSS- LINKED TO
NUMBER OF PERMITTED TRANSFERS -SHOWN IN
TICKET AS S SURCHARGE-. DESTINATION/TURN
ROUND IS NOT COUNTED AS STOPOVER-.
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Flights operated by LX will therefore only be permitted on Intra-European flights; SQ operated flights only permitted between Aus-SIN.Codeshare not permitted except:
LH codeshare between Australia and BKK/SIN/LAX/SFO
permitted.
LH codeshare within Europe permitted except LH operated by
AP/QI/TK.
Hmm ... TG's response far more comprehensive lol.
Thanks for this TG, its a great help. So are you still in the industry and able to give me a price?Originally Posted by Travel Guru
So I understand about the codeshare, but if I flew SYD/YVR on AC and purchased a connection to YYC, as LH fly out of YYC would I be able to use this service, or as a condition of the fare would I have to return to YVR.
Cheers. Thanks for your help
IIRC you can do a surface segment YVR//YYC and pick up LH out of YYC.
There's also a cheaper version of the fare I believe, that limits you to LH, TG and UA but the hassle of an LAX/SFO connection might be more than it's worth.
Thats correct, in the routings it states:
PERMITTED AT PAX OWN EXPENSE:
1.BETWEEN LAX SFO YVR AND ANY LH ONLINE
POINT IN NORTH AMERICA.
As far as price goes, it depends when you're looking at departing,
but these are the current gross prices PLUS taxes.
L $1647
J $1757
K $1977
H $2197
SEASONALITY -
L: 20SEP-25NOV/04JAN-28FEB
J: 01MAR-24MAR
K: 25MAR-26MAY/16AUG-19SEP/26NOV-02DEC/25DEC-03JAN
H: 27MAY-15AUG/03DEC-24DEC
As far as assistance goes, I don't solicit for business on the site
but am always happy to assist any member of the board in any way I can.
If you have any queries, feel free to PM me and i'll do my best to help.
TG
My mission is to utilise my blackbook of travel contacts to create travel experiences that will leave footprints forever on your soul
Cheers. I missed the NA routing.
I have purchased this fare before. The routing that I used (back in 2004) was
SYD-SFO (UA) SFO-MUC (LH) MUC-LHR (LH) LHR-FRA (LH) FRA-HKG (LH) HKG-SYD (QF).
It was a brilliant price back then if flying after 22 Sept. Since then I think the taxes have gone up on it to ridiculous levels and whilst the headline fare looks attractive I am not sure it is that attractive with taxes anymore.
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